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It is a situation that everyone will face and it is expensive!

Chris-CJ

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In Ontario, the fact is that motorcyclists are 5 times more likely to die in an accident than automobile drivers (from a study published by the Canadian Medical Association Journal). In any case, depressing as it may be, "death" is a given. So to lessen the burden on those left behind, I checked around for costs of a grave and burial.
$17K (for two), is the best number I was able to get.
[cremation is not much less costly]
That is significant change for an investment that has no return (pun intended!).

Does anyone have pointers to reducing this cost?
(please, no flippant answers)

Thank you for any helpful input.
 

JD_PICKLE

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I have had numerous concussions, one led me no longer suffer migraine headaches.
When the inevitable happens;
my head goes to a research study in Alberta,
any organs that can be harvested for transplant are taken,
the rest is donated for teaching.
Zero cost.
May sound cold, but I believe when you die, you move on and your shell (body) is of no use anymore.
I see it as too much money being spent on funerals and burials in cemeteries.
Your burial site may only be visited for one maybe two generations and then what?

Sorry, may not be the answer you are looking for, but that's just the ramblings of a crusty old fart...
 

Chris-CJ

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- hmm, the "organ donation" thing sounds like a possibility, but I believe that one has to pay to get "you" carted away along with other costs.
- thought that the natural decomposition (no formaldehyde, thanks) is the most natural method, which is why I focused on 'being in the ground'.
- cremation, uses electricity and generates air pollution, in the wild dead animals dont burn, they decompose.

are there other alternatives?
am open to suggestions.

thanks!
 

Trials

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- hmm, the "organ donation" thing sounds like a possibility, but I believe that one has to pay to get "you" carted away along with other costs.
- thought that the natural decomposition (no formaldehyde, thanks) is the most natural method, which is why I focused on 'being in the ground'.
- cremation, uses electricity and generates air pollution, in the wild dead animals dont burn, they decompose.

are there other alternatives?
am open to suggestions.

thanks!
I think the only option you missed is burial at sea.
 

justride

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can you get an "add on" to an existing insurance to cover funeral expenses?
 

Chris-CJ

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I think the only option you missed is burial at sea.
lol, as an ex-Marine Engineer I should have thought of that , thing is who will take "me" there and what's it going to cost (btw: body dumping in Lake Ontario is illegal and the lake is a source of drinking water)
 

Trials

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... Lake Ontario is illegal and the lake is a source of drinking water)
;)
Maybe for you it is, I swore off that stuff, most of my drinking water comes out of the ground now.
I always joked that if I ever really wanted to end it all economically, I would go way up north and punch a polar bear in the face. Also potentially illegal but I'm not certain on that point.
 

crankcall

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Have a friend take you to the cottage and put your ashes in the fire pit,
Your kids can just put your ashes in a closet
There are quite a few ‘burials at sea’ in Lake Ontario. Yes it’s illegal. You go out at sunrise and your back for coffee by 8. It’s ashes there is nothing toxic in there.
The UK is offering people composting. I don’t think I’d like it but it’s cheap.
Cemeteries are the biggest waste of prime real estate in North America, look at bayview gardens in aldershot, acres of waterfront , nobody in there can see the lake.


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GreyGhost

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- cremation, uses electricity and generates air pollution, in the wild dead animals dont burn, they decompose.
It would be interesting to see the actual pollution impact. I suspect it wouldn't be substantially worse than natural decomposition as either way, the vast majority of your body returns to C02. One just happens faster. As far as the actual emissions from the furnace, meh. I don't think twice about heating up the oven to cook a pizza, one final bonfire followed by an eternity of no pizza and the world is in a better place.

My grandmother wanted us to put her in the woods so we looked into it. No bueno in Ontario. If you are a body, you either go to science or go in an expensive grave. If you are ashes, you are inert and can go anywhere.

FWIW, one branch of my family has all donated their bodies to U of T. They get picked up from the morgue and about a year later there is a service with the med school students remembering the cadavers and thanking them for their help in teaching them to save lives. Another branch is still filling plots that were purchased many decades ago. My grandmother is in an unmarked grave at a cemetery in TO as the crazy price for a stone to mark the grave seemed wasteful (and you are not allowed to make your own, though shall use the vulture with the contract).
 

crankcall

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Don’t leave grandma in an unmarked grave . Have you never read a Steven King book?

All crematoriums should have a pizza oven built on top .


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nobbie48

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My Mother-in-law was about $13K a year ago. Traditional casket and a lunch for the attendees after. I'm going for the BBQ route. I think there is a $2500 burial grant from the feds.
 
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Joe Bass

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Don’t leave grandma in an unmarked grave . Have you never read a Steven King book?

All crematoriums should have a pizza oven built on top .


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I wonder if they can send a pizza in with me when I get lit up?

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PrivatePilot

Ironus Butticus
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Cremation is far from environmentally inert.

It's ironic, but the new kid on the block, Alkaline hydrolysis, is very environmentally friendly compared to most other methods of disposal of a body, but is suffering from stupid people fighting against it because they think it's "Gross" that the resulting liquid goes down the drain into the sewer system. Hint: Lots of bodily fluids and waste go down the sewer system, most of them not inert like the output of one of these body disposal machines. But public perception is a ***** sometimes - a lot of people make decisions based on the feels now, not facts.
 

J_F

gringo diablo
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cremation, no coffin, no funeral
my kids sprinkle my ashes in Schooner Lake out of a canoe
then they sit around a campfire drinking with my friends
and laughing at my dumbass, I pay for the beer
 
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bigpoppa

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cremation, no coffin, no funeral
my kids sprinkle may ashes in Schooner Lake out of a canoe
then they sit around a campfire drinking with my friends
and laughing at my dumbass, I pay for the beer
They gotta do it like india, out in the open, instead of a in tiny ass oven for all the claustrophobes out there.
 

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