thats how it should be done! cheers!any groups have a signaling system they like? here's an interesting read...
cheers & ride safe.
I have an issue with this. I've been on a number of group rides over the years, and seeing this technique being used in groups of total strangers bothers me. It seems inherently unsafe to cross-over in front of a vehicle one second behind you, as well as the constant swapping of sides that occurs down the line when the lead rider changes from the curb to centre lane, etc....Starting with the rider who was behind the rider who left, motion with your leg that you are going to change sides in the lane, and then do it, which will lead to everyone behind swapping sides.
+1 I Totally agree. I am new to riding and very interested in the technical side of it. As a new rider to both the sport and the local group I ride with I learn based on the actions of the experienced riders. I continue to ride with them because they are a safe and sane group. If I displayed the erratic behaviour mentioned in previous posts they would never ride with me again. It is very clearly the responsibility of each rider (regardless of experience) to chose who to ride with...I have seen very experienced riders I wouldn't be comfortable with on a ride just by their aggressive style of riding. Really experience is irrelevant, confidence and trust is what I look for.I learned a lot from reading this thread - thanks - and I have some thoughts and comments.
As for groups, I guess it comes down to finding people who like the same style of riding. For me being older and flying a road king classic, I want to leisurely cruise, take in the scenery, and so on - with my wife on the back. Maybe stop for some country pie, a coffee and some good conversation with others of similar interests. I have zero interest in taking corners fast, etc. I guess you have to realize what your style is and know your limitations. I could never fit in with a group going mach 5 through the twisties - it's just not who I am - but I can appreciate it.
I also believe that extensive riding experience makes you a good candidate for leadership, but not necessarily a good leader for all types of riders/groups. If you realize that in a group you're as strong as your weakest link and have patience to address the weakest of the weak then you're off to a good start. As a leader you need to set a pace that doesn't exceed the least experienced rider in the group which is to say, be patient and be there for the group as opposed to your own interests, especially if the group membership is new to you.
Maybe I'm over simplifying things but to me it seems like common sense; some people derive joy from helping others - even newbs - and some people just don't have the patience for it and so prefer a different style of riding and a different group experience level and make up. This is easily addressed in the description of the proposed ride - newb friendly or experienced high speed only, etc. Pick your poison.
constant swapping of sides that occurs down the line when the lead rider changes from the curb to centre lane,
I'm with BusaBob on this one.I have an issue with this. I've been on a number of group rides over the years, and seeing this technique being used in groups of total strangers bothers me. It seems inherently unsafe to cross-over in front of a vehicle one second behind you, as well as the constant swapping of sides that occurs down the line when the lead rider changes from the curb to centre lane, etc.
Would it not be safer to just stay in the same staggered formation and avoid the swapping sides altogether when moving from lane 1 to lane 2 and vice versa? i.e. the lead always stays in one tire track (eg. the left), instead of constantly changing sides and having everyone behind swap sides in sequence.
The group leader should establish the expectations before heading off and set the tone throughout the ride. All riders should be aware of hand signals (and general etiquette) before riding in a group. Safety first.The few group rides I have been a part of involve too much close following, especially in corners where everyone should string out into single file. Don't like it.