Hard to watch the video when i was reading the article in the newspaper.
Honda NC700
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Hard to watch the video when i was reading the article in the newspaper.
Well you responded to a post about a video. You should watch it.
Yeah i watched it.
Bike was a bmw and had abs brake test in a controlled environment.
Seriously Rob, stop cock blocking for two minutes, i thought this thread was about the new Honda NC700.
The NC has a single front disk and ABS, as standard, as stated in that article that you were reading. The test was performed on a regular road, not a track. Any such test is going to be somewhat 'controlled', since you can't readily recreate random situations.
It was a valid comparison.
You asked for something that you already got. Now you want to nit-pick it to pieces. The video's credibility isn't the only thing in question here
Rob, I didn't click on the video originally because 1, it was a BMW. And 2, sunny posted with the attached clip that the bike stopped faster than the car in the dry.
If you want to use any given u tube video or a photo op in sunny Spain to determine there is nothing wrong with a modern day bike with a single rotor thats fine by me.
If you want to use any given u tube video or a photo op in sunny Spain to determine there is nothing wrong with a modern day bike with a single rotor thats fine by me.
Instrumented test of a 98 Honda Accord braking from 60-0 is 133ft. A modern 2012 Toyota Camry stops about 6ft shorter. Both stats are instrumented tests from Motor Trend.
Point is, the BMW performs more than adequately with its single front disc.
The braking numbers quoted for the 98 accord were more than likely done in the year 1989.
Try repeating those same numbers 9 years later with wear and tear factor added on, plus who knows that accord in the video could have bald tires, leaking shocks, Canadian tire brakes pads and a furry dice in the windshield.
All this talk of the BMW versus the Accord is moot anyway. Braking, particularly in the wet, is all about available grip. One front disc on the NC700 should be entirely adequate and will quite likely be capable of locking up in wet conditions. Two brake discs would be more beneficial in dry conditions, not wet.
That's the first reasonable point that you've made. The BMW was produced for quite a long while (since 2001), with few changes, so the technology is a reasonable comparison. The condition of the car is a reasonable question.
The NC has a more modern and faster cycling ABS system.
ItIsWhatItIs
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Anyone check this bike out?
ItIsWhatItIs
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Honda has some competition.
http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/07/05/2013-bmw-f700gs/
This bike is also a parallel twin.
http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/07/05/2013-bmw-f700gs/
This bike is also a parallel twin.
That's cool -
low seat height but lots of power 75 HP
There will be no comparison - the Honda NC700 just sucks.
But I be the BMW is no lightweight either in lb or price.
Nice ride - be a contender in Aus if the price was right still think a single thumper best for dual sport that really is.
low seat height but lots of power 75 HP
There will be no comparison - the Honda NC700 just sucks.
But I be the BMW is no lightweight either in lb or price.
Nice ride - be a contender in Aus if the price was right still think a single thumper best for dual sport that really is.
ItIsWhatItIs
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That's cool -
low seat height but lots of power 75 HP
There will be no comparison - the Honda NC700 just sucks.
But I be the BMW is no lightweight either in lb or price.
Nice ride - be a contender in Aus if the price was right still think a single thumper best for dual sport that really is.
A neat little feature this BMW also has it is able to be reconfigured to 45 hp and use regular gas. I am not sure if this would translate into better fuel economy. The feature is designed to be training wheels for new riders.
Places like Australia have power to weight restrictions for new riders so at 45 this would qualify as a "learners" bike as does the KLR 650 if switched to single rider ( remove rear pegs and cut the seat foam ).
It should translate to better fuel economy - that is a seriously detuned 800cc tho. Interesting tech.
It should translate to better fuel economy - that is a seriously detuned 800cc tho. Interesting tech.
BimmerMike
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Cycle World just named it best Standard bike....
We’ve picked everything from the Suzuki DR-Z400SM to the Triumph Tiger 1050 for this category in the last five years, so don’t even try to talk us down from this year’s winner, Honda’s new-world NC700X. Even if our highly experienced Eurospondent, Bruno dePrato, hadn’t given the NC a rave review, this interesting, original, approachable and affordable machine takes us back to a time when those qualities helped Honda take the world by storm. What’s not to like about scooter-style storage and great gas mileage in an adventurous-looking package that goes and handles, if not like a sportbike, at least like a sporty bike? For a starting price of $6999 or $8999 with auto-shift DCT and ABS? Maybe austerity won’t be so bad.
I test rode one at Mosport last Sunday and was quite impressed. My regular bike is a BMW F800ST which I have customized with lower bars from the S model and upgraded forks and rear shock. The Honda compares very well to my bike before the mods. The suspension on the Honda feels pretty good stock ( I found the BMW to be too soft with too much front dive ) and the riding position is comparable, maybe a little more upright. The engine does take some getting used to...but it has lots of power, you just need to shift earlier. It is very smooth and I found myself quite often discovering that I still had another gear to go. Gear indicator would be nice.
All in all I would imagine that this bike would make a great commuter bike and a pretty good all rounder. For the price I agree with Cycle World...an interesting bike!
We’ve picked everything from the Suzuki DR-Z400SM to the Triumph Tiger 1050 for this category in the last five years, so don’t even try to talk us down from this year’s winner, Honda’s new-world NC700X. Even if our highly experienced Eurospondent, Bruno dePrato, hadn’t given the NC a rave review, this interesting, original, approachable and affordable machine takes us back to a time when those qualities helped Honda take the world by storm. What’s not to like about scooter-style storage and great gas mileage in an adventurous-looking package that goes and handles, if not like a sportbike, at least like a sporty bike? For a starting price of $6999 or $8999 with auto-shift DCT and ABS? Maybe austerity won’t be so bad.
I test rode one at Mosport last Sunday and was quite impressed. My regular bike is a BMW F800ST which I have customized with lower bars from the S model and upgraded forks and rear shock. The Honda compares very well to my bike before the mods. The suspension on the Honda feels pretty good stock ( I found the BMW to be too soft with too much front dive ) and the riding position is comparable, maybe a little more upright. The engine does take some getting used to...but it has lots of power, you just need to shift earlier. It is very smooth and I found myself quite often discovering that I still had another gear to go. Gear indicator would be nice.
All in all I would imagine that this bike would make a great commuter bike and a pretty good all rounder. For the price I agree with Cycle World...an interesting bike!
