Oblivious people + hard to see flame. Is it that hard to figure out?I'm trying to figure out how somebody could not see the danger there, you don't pour liquid fuel on any fire.
Highly recommend you don't throw gun powder into a campfire either, is a really really bad idea.
Just because I can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there. Put the lid on for a bit, then remove the lid and hold your hand over to feel for heat. Same game as guns. Assume they are loaded until you prove otherwise.Ethanol flames burn almost colourless, especially in daylight. The victims probably didn't realize the flame wasn't out.
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Have your friend burn them, use the same fire for your spent propane cylinders. (Don't forget to film it, the fire makes pretty colours).Oblivious people + hard to see flame. Is it that hard to figure out?
BTW do recommend recycling or burning li-ion batteries? Asking for a friend.
If the cylinder is actually spent, almost nothing happens. Even if it's full, putting it in a normal fire just gives you a flame jet.Have your friend burn them, use the same fire for your spent propane cylinders. (Don't forget to film it, the fire makes pretty colours).
Ethanol flames burn almost colourless, especially in daylight. The victims probably didn't realize the flame wasn't out.
That was methanol not ethanol. A whole different level of suck there. Ethanol flames are more visible.
The gasoline into the hot engine is a stretch but not impossible. Maybe the exhaust header will be hot enough to autoignite, but not much else, you need over 500F.
I would be surprised if these ethanol fire deaths were not also closely linked to ethanol consumption. Who pours flammable liquid into a fire without making damn sure it is out?
Running is a whole different story. Lots of sources of ignition then. Be thankful the guy didn't kill himself with CO, that seems to be the normal F-up for the parking garage cleaning crews.I actually was called to evaluate fire damaged equipment in a parking garage. The guy tried to refuel a pressure washer and must have spilled gas on the exhaust. It may even has been running. They don't hire geniuses to wash garage floors.The fire destroyed the washer and the damage to the equipment was unrepairable. $50,000 to $100,000 estimate to replace.
Safety tip: Take a coffee break before refuelling.
Flame arrestor on the bottles have few downsides. For the amount they charge for the fuel, they can eat the dime for an arrestor. Hell 151 has one and it should be much less likely to be poured into a fire.Like others said, many cases the person thought the flame was out, the existing fuel was almost spent and the flame was very low and hard to see. Yes they should have checked better but people do stupid things all the time, and sometimes people just have a brain fart or maybe they consumed too much of the "fuel" themselves...
I am sure other cases the people were just stupid and thought they could just top it up while going...
Like others said, many cases the person thought the flame was out, the existing fuel was almost spent and the flame was very low and hard to see. Yes they should have checked better but people do stupid things all the time, and sometimes people just have a brain fart or maybe they consumed too much of the "fuel" themselves...
I am sure other cases the people were just stupid and thought they could just top it up while going...