Covid Vacs

I got covid near the end of the pandemic. Had one bad day that I felt sick, and while I did not feel great I have felt wore with a cold in the past. Tested positive for covid for about 7 days after that and felt completely fine. Thankfully I could work from home during that time, put more hours then I did when I went into the office just to keep on top of things and keep things moving out for my clients. I got really good at testing myself during that week as I felt fine but was not going back in till I tested negative.
 
There is no record of Covid when you claim.

There was chatter about something happening in China.. around the wuhan market.. in late October/early November '19. The first I heard of 'the something' was in early December '19..from an animal rescue group that was based in Wuhan. They were basically saying.. something is happening around the market, people are getting sick... they thought it was the market itself.
I didn't really pay attention to it until lit started really getting talked about In January/February.
 
In my house... I didn't get any shots. The wife got 4-5.
We both got covid 3 times.. she was a little worse off than me each time.. neither was that bad. But.. It appears I might have some lasting effects/issues.
 
There was chatter about something happening in China.. around the wuhan market.. in late October/early November '19. The first I heard of 'the something' was in early December '19..from an animal rescue group that was based in Wuhan. They were basically saying.. something is happening around the market, people are getting sick... they thought it was the market itself.
I didn't really pay attention to it until lit started really getting talked about In January/February.
The whole wet market thing was a distraction, I think the general consensus among the scientific community is that Covid was created in a lab.
 
The whole wet market thing was a distraction, I think the general consensus among the scientific community is that Covid was created in a lab.
There is no such consensus, and no proof to back up this theory. You are free to present otherwise
 
The whole wet market thing was a distraction, I think the general consensus among the scientific community is that Covid was created in a lab.

I was only repeating how and when I first heard about it.. not giving an opinion on what, why, etc..
I haven't followed it in years... don't know what's being said anymore.
 
There is no such consensus, and no proof to back up this theory. You are free to present otherwise
Let me rephrase that, I think that the general consensus is that the Covid 19 virus more likely than not came from a lab. If you know something that the CIA doesn’t, I hope you take the time to share it with them.
 
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There is no such consensus, and no proof to back up this theory. You are free to present otherwise
Your right, there is no proof and there never will be. China has been less than forthcoming about anything relating to the virus and it’s origins. No amount of evidence is going to convince someone that still believes in the wet market theory rather than open their mind to the possibility of a lab leak from a lab doing this exact same kind of research just down the street. That’s one hell of a coincidence don’t you think?
 
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You're free to believe whatever you want, I have no desire to engage with the old theories anymore. I only commented on what OP posted because it was technically a new paper that had a veneer of legitimacy, but under the surface it's the same old story from the same crowd
 
To date there is no real evidence that covid was created in a laboratory. All the peer-reviewed studies pointed to it being an evolved thing (ie, spread from some animal source likely), and authoritative bodies (WHO, NIH, U.S. intelligence) also concurred that while an accidental lab release remains a remote possibility, the virus never had any signs of deliberate engineering.

A few links from BBC is hardly evidence. Neither is YouTube videos or anything that didn't come from a scholarly or peer reviewed science based source.
 
To date there is no real evidence that covid was created in a laboratory. All the peer-reviewed studies pointed to it being an evolved thing (ie, spread from some animal source likely), and authoritative bodies (WHO, NIH, U.S. intelligence) also concurred that while an accidental lab release remains a remote possibility, the virus never had any signs of deliberate engineering.

A few links from BBC is hardly evidence. Neither is YouTube videos or anything that didn't come from a scholarly or peer reviewed science based source.
Yes I agree with some of that but at the risk sounding like a conspiracy guy, the CIA would not make a statement like that lightly and they have access to information you and I could never imagine. There will never be a smoking gun unfortunately, China will make sure of that.
 
the CIA would not make a statement like that lightly and they have access to information you and I could never imagine.

Given Trumps hard-on for China this time around as well as the CIA now being loaded with sycophants, I'll go out on a limb and say that if there actually was any hard evidence that could be embarrassing to China right now, he'd have found a way to release it or at least arrange a "leak".
 
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The whole wet market thing was a distraction, I think the general consensus among the scientific community is that Covid was created in a lab.
That comment about consensus is incorrect.
You can get a sometimes hour by hour timeline of the discovery of the outbreak and the response in Breathless if you take the time to read it. The virologists who were there and communicating worldwide as was and is the norm in the science community.

ToSlow is claiming he had Covid in Voisey Bay in Labrador In December 2019 but it was March 2020 when Voisey Bay was closed due to risk of Covid.
Vale Canada has put its Voisey’s Bay mining operation on care and maintenance for four weeks as a precaution to protect the health of residents in nearby Indigenous communities.

The mining giant said in a March 17 news release it was taking the unusual step as a response to the COVID-19 coronavirus currently circulating the globe

I suspect there were no Chinese workers at Vale at that time and indeed the virus had not spread worldwide at that point. You can get the day by day time line of the spread in detail from the medical professionals involved and some that acquired and spread it.

WSJ
https://www.wsj.com › Arts › Books › Bookshelf Breathless

5 Oct 2022 — Wong's finding was evidence that Covid's novel features didn't have to be engineered in a lab, because they already existed in nature.


The most likely explanation is ToSlow has conflated a non-covid virus he had acquired in late 2019 ( there are lots ) with the Covid outbreak later.
Makes a better tale to tell...;)
 
That comment about consensus is incorrect.
You can get a sometimes hour by hour timeline of the discovery of the outbreak and the response in Breathless if you take the time to read it. The virologists who were there and communicating worldwide as was and is the norm in the science community.

ToSlow is claiming he had Covid in Voisey Bay in Labrador In December 2019 but it was March 2020 when Voisey Bay was closed due to risk of Covid.


I suspect there were no Chinese workers at Vale at that time and indeed the virus had not spread worldwide at that point. You can get the day by day time line of the spread in detail from the medical professionals involved and some that acquired and spread it.




The most likely explanation is ToSlow has conflated a non-covid virus he had acquired in late 2019 ( there are lots ) with the Covid outbreak later.
Makes a better tale to tell...;)
Story or not, they flew us out late 2019, they empty the mine. Maybe they cleared it out twice. I don’t know as I didn’t go back after that rotation

If you want to call me a BSer that’s fine,

I look at it as you being the troll you are
 
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