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crankcall said:
My justification for the Jura machine , it’s completely programable so I have a sturdier grind and longer press through than my wife , we each have a button with our name on it . We can use the same beans and both get what we want . Yes it’s a little over the top , but when it’s one cup in the morning , it’s a simple pleasure that starts my day in the right direction.
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How does yours do espresso? We got a big Jura machine in our office, complete with separate refrigerated milk tank. I was so excited to do away with the dirty dish water that passed for coffee from the Keurig machine that came before, but it's been a big let down. The espresso is sour, almost undrinkable. It's less noticeable in something like an Americano, and almost undetectable in a milky coffee. The problem is I have to share this machine with an office and I'm probably the only one drinking espresso, so I don't want to start monkeying with settings unless I know what I'm doing and won't ruin it for everyone else...
 
Its an OK espresso , we use Lavazza Crema beans which are not an espresso bean so it will never be perfect, but its not bitter or sour . We arent coffee snobs , we like what we like. I went to this machine because it does 15? coffees with little effort , all adaquet, none perfection.
If I had more time in the mornings I would buy an architectural marvel with lots of levers and chrome , I just love the look of those things .
 
crankcall said:
Its an OK espresso , we use Lavazza Crema beans which are not an espresso bean so it will never be perfect, but its not bitter or sour . We arent coffee snobs , we like what we like. I went to this machine because it does 15? coffees with little effort , all adaquet, none perfection.
If I had more time in the mornings I would buy an architectural marvel with lots of levers and chrome , I just love the look of those things .
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Yeah, I suspect a big part of the issue is the fancy craft roast beans they buy, which are inherently too sour for a boring old espresso. I'm not a coffee snob by any stretch and I don't think I'm being overly picky. I would be extremely happy with something that compared to a Nespresso. Unfortunately, this is a long way from that.

Sadly, I can't swap the beans just for me, so maybe I need to bring in that Nespresso machine that's gathering dust. Nardini sells these Gigi pods that are surprisingly excellent, verging on a Neapolitan coffee, even if they absolutely hate the environment with so much packaging...
 
I've been drinking tech company coffee for more than 30 years. I drink it black and if I have to, cold.

Y'all fancy.
 
TK4 said:
Coffee, whiskey and wine tend to bring out the ballers (you know who you are).
Timmy's serves dish water disguised as coffee but McD's is pretty good.
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Tim Hortons is not coffee. It is brown and water. It has shaped the taste of generations of canadians who now think real coffee is awful.
 
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M favorite coffee is those on Monday and Friday mornings when I head over to a neighbour's garage. We tune it up with whisky and then spend and hour or two solving all the worlds problems.
 
TK4 said:
Coffee, whiskey and wine tend to bring out the ballers (you know who you are).
Timmy's serves dish water disguised as coffee but McD's is pretty good.
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There's three things I refuse to cheap out on. Booze, coffee, and poo tickets.
 
Tim Hortons had a coffee contract with Mother Parker's. They built their own roastery in Ancaster to cut out the middleman and started making the swill that they now serve * themselves. Shortly after that, McDonalds then brought out their McCafe line. Take a wild guess who got the contract for the coffee.

So, if you're on the road and need a fix, go to McDonalds and you'll get the old Tim Hortons coffee (that was at least drinkable) at about 2/3 the cost. A Large McCafe w. senior discount (you have to ask for the discount at the menu order wall thingie) is $1.50.

* The individual TH franchises may spice up your caffeine enjoyment crapshoot by running water through the same grinds a second or third time as has been reported by numerous ex employee whistleblowers.
 
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FullMotoJacket said:
Tim Hortons had a coffee contract with Mother Parker's. They built their own roastery in Ancaster to cut out the middleman and started making the swill that they now serve themselves. Shortly after that, McDonalds then brought out their McCafe line. Take a wild guess who got the contract for the coffee.

So, if you're on the road and need a fix, go to McDonalds and you'll get the old Tim Hortons coffee (that was at least drinkable) at about 2/3 the cost. A Large McCafe w. senior discount (you have to ask for the discount at the menu order wall thingie) is $1.50.
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I used to work in a small country restaurant. Pounds of folgers served every day. Owner tried mother parkers for a week as cost was less than half. Failed experiment. Everybody hated it. That's saying something as folgers isn't highbrow. Back to folgers for the next few decades.
 
You can go down a wormhole with coffee. I have mid tier Breville stuff that works well for me and whatever Costco has that's freshest for beans that isn’t Starbucks over roasted/burnt nastiness.

I do like visiting coffee plantations while I'm on holiday as they are interesting and the off the record chats with the people that run the operations regarding Starbucks are quite illuminating. They will take their money for the green beans but they all seemed to be quite horrified with what they did to them afterwards in roasting. I tried some of the priciest coffee in the world, Geisha, and thought it was pretty nasty. I still have some in my freezer I think. I just prefer the Balzac’s or Williams beans from Costco. The Williams Sumatra is very nice.
 
JC99 said:
You can go down a wormhole with coffee. I have mid tier Breville stuff that works well for me and whatever Costco has that's freshest for beans that isn’t Starbucks over roasted/burnt nastiness.

I do like visiting coffee plantations while I'm on holiday as they are interesting and the off the record chats with the people that run the operations regarding Starbucks are quite illuminating. They will take their money for the green beans but they all seemed to be quite horrified with what they did to them afterwards in roasting. I tried some of the priciest coffee in the world, Geisha, and thought it was pretty nasty. I still have some in my freezer I think. I just prefer the Balzac’s or Williams beans from Costco. The Williams Sumatra is very nice.
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Starbucks coffee beans at Costco (not sure about any other retailer although I assume same) is made by Nestle and under licence. The Nestle offering is nothing like Starbucks.
 
JZ67 said:
Starbucks coffee beans at Costco (not sure about any other retailer although I assume same) is made by Nestle and under licence. The Nestle offering is nothing like Starbucks.
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Costco Starbucks french roast still tastes like burnt ass. They got that part of the flavor profile right.
 
Priller said:
Yeah, I suspect a big part of the issue is the fancy craft roast beans they buy, which are inherently too sour for a boring old espresso. I'm not a coffee snob by any stretch and I don't think I'm being overly picky. I would be extremely happy with something that compared to a Nespresso. Unfortunately, this is a long way from that.

Sadly, I can't swap the beans just for me, so maybe I need to bring in that Nespresso machine that's gathering dust. Nardini sells these Gigi pods that are surprisingly excellent, verging on a Neapolitan coffee, even if they absolutely hate the environment with so much packaging...
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Bring in a bag Kimbo Espresso Crema Intensa and chuck it in the machine. You're going to get some attention, my bet is it will be positive. Available at Longo's. It's very reasonably priced and more than just espresso. Coffee is just espresso with more water innit?

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