Chigee

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Came across this Chigee offering while watching an unrelated YouTube video and it has intrigued me. Price point, as usual for a motorcycle accessory, means that I have to dip in to my **** you fund so I am wondering if it is **** you money worthy.

Right now, I use my phone for all my needs. I plan a route before I head out with way points to keep me on the path I intended. This technique is just ok. I don't love how I use the maps but that is probably more on me than the app.

I connect to my communication system (interphone F4) that I have had for about 15 years. I can listen to music on whatever app I choose, use maps, take a call if I need to and it all works well.

I really don't need any more tech but it is a pretty cool piece of kit. Does anyone have or use something similar?
 
I have similar. They are great!

They are simple android tablets that use your phones apps and mirror your phones screen for CarPlay and android auto. You can also download android apps directly onto the unit. Your phone needs constant cell data, and bluetooth to be paired because the phone runs google maps or Waze, and the dash apps use your phones accelerometer and gps to computes speed, acceleration forces and lean angles.

The main screen is an android loader with a few widgets. You can can configure or replace with any of the free android automotive type loaders to create your own custom dashboard.

Price? From what I’ve seen, Chigee and Carpuride are no different than other Chinese head units, just slicker marketing - I don’t see any value that justifies their 5x price. I have a couple off Amazon specisls, (Camacho) I paid $120 for the 7” on my Vstrom, and $70 for the 5” on my atv. Same functionality, just different screen sizes.

I don’t have the cameras, I could add them for about $50.
 
Carpuride offers to pay YouTubers and other influencers for reviews. Then when we publish a review that's fair and balanced instead of basically a glorified sales promotion for them, they don't pay and ask you to redo it. Ask me how I know.

As for Chigee, if you need BMW compatibility, that's a great option! I have one brand new in box I should probably keep but might be willing to sell..

If you don't specifically need it to plug right in to your BMW's OEM connector, like @Mad Mike said, you can just buy from any cheaper brand.
 
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I have similar. They are great!

They are simple android tablets that use your phones apps and mirror your phones screen for CarPlay and android auto. You can also download android apps directly onto the unit. Your phone needs constant cell data, and bluetooth to be paired because the phone runs google maps or Waze, and the dash apps use your phones accelerometer and gps to computes speed, acceleration forces and lean angles.

The main screen is an android loader with a few widgets. You can can configure or replace with any of the free android automotive type loaders to create your own custom dashboard.

Price? From what I’ve seen, Chigee and Carpuride are no different than other Chinese head units, just slicker marketing - I don’t see any value that justifies their 5x price. I have a couple off Amazon specisls, (Camacho) I paid $120 for the 7” on my Vstrom, and $70 for the 5” on my atv. Same functionality, just different screen sizes.

I don’t have the cameras, I could add them for about $50.

I didn't dig into these before posting as I didn't want to see propaganda but rather get info from real people using them. So if it is just mirroring your phone and relies on your phone connectivity to the network, why not just use your phone?
 
I didn't dig into these before posting as I didn't want to see propaganda but rather get info from real people using them. So if it is just mirroring your phone and relies on your phone connectivity to the network, why not just use your phone?
I had the same reaction when I saw these kinds of units. I guess there are 2 camps on using your phone, either you do or you don't. I'm a don't use phone, because it's too important, rather keep it safe, even if it's just casting the screen. 3rd camp is buy a inexpensive android phone and use that just for this purpose. Or just stick with a typical gps unit.
Could there be another option of using a mini tablet just with google maps?
 
I didn't dig into these before posting as I didn't want to see propaganda but rather get info from real people using them. So if it is just mirroring your phone and relies on your phone connectivity to the network, why not just use your phone?
It is just android auto lets me keep my phone in my pocket. Keeps it safe and the screen is bigger and glove friendly. Basically the same reason for Android Auto in a car.

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I had the same reaction when I saw these kinds of units. I guess there are 2 camps on using your phone, either you do or you don't. I'm a don't use phone, because it's too important, rather keep it safe, even if it's just casting the screen. 3rd camp is buy a inexpensive android phone and use that just for this purpose. Or just stick with a typical gps unit.
Could there be another option of using a mini tablet just with google maps?
Most mini-tablets don't like water.

Phone cameras don't like vibration. A spare phone solves that.

I like my phone in my pocket. Just in case I end up in a ditch, I don't want to be looking everywhere for a phone to call for help.
 
It's interesting watching some Chinese Amazon alphabet soup companies take off into premium pricing and others just disappear. I have a Lamtto unit that's fine, cost me $130 or similar, though a quick peek at their Amazon store suggests they no longer sell waterproof units for motorcycles. There are a dozen other random collections of letters that will, though, for a similar price. No idea if they're all off the same assembly line and the company names are rolled to avoid accumulation of too many bad reviews that drags them below the dreaded 4 star mark.

Aoocci is another one that's graduated from just having an Amazon store to having their own webpage, but aren't charging the Chigee premium just yet. I know they did a lot of YouTube influencer freebie marketing a while back, no idea if they were as slimy as Carpuride.

If you want something that's a whole step up, both in quality and price, I have heard nothing but good things about Carpe Iter. The name appears to veer dangerously close to yet another alphabet soup name, but it actually Latin for 'seize the journey' (as opposed to carpe diem, seize the day). It also makes me think of 'carpet eater', which I suspect isn't the connection they were hoping for, what with rugs, munchers, etc.

The main reasons I use it over just a phone mount are as follows:

- It's much bigger, making gloved screen tapping less of a crapshoot (it's still a crapshoot, but now takes three taps to get what I want instead of 10)
- It's brighter, so much more visible on a sunny day
- Having a phone handset on max brighness destroys the battery, so you need to plug it in anyway
- No worries about vibration destroying the camera
- No worries about the phone falling off over a pothole etc
- Phone is always with me, no need to plug/unplug every time I walk away from the bike
- It's just 'there' and auto-connects to my phone, so I just have to jump on and go. No futzing with connecting, plugging in, etc.
- As mentioned by GG above, if I have a bad day and am crawling out of a ditch, the phone is both marginally more likely to survive and I'm not kicking through grass looking for it

The drawbacks so far are:

- Direction changes on the map apps can be laggy. Not sure if it's because the phone is vertical in my pocket so the internal compass isn't accurate, but it seems to take a second or two to reflect a direction change on the map. Normally not a big deal, but can make you think twice when you're making a few turns in quick succession
- It kind of looks like a big phone, so I've had a Toronto junkie damage the mount trying to yank it off before realising it's got no resale value when the bike was parked on the street. It's hard to remove, so taking it off when away from the bike isn't realistic.
- It's not pretty and kind of dominates the triple clamp area.
- The Lamtto unit is clearly disposable. I will be shocked if it survives more than four or five years.
- To be truly useful for motorcycle journeys, they work best with a dedicated routing app, the best of which aren't free. I'm making do with the free version of OsmAnd, but it's kind of a pain. If I did lots of multi-day trips, I'd definitely pony up for My-Route, the paid OsmAnd, or similar. Google Maps is great for the fastest direct route to a destination, but it's terrible for waypoints.
 
As a person never having wireless android auto, how is the battery draw with it on? I assume far better than screen on but also a lot more draw than just idling? Or does google track you so much on a normal day that android auto basically makes no difference?
 
For me the biggest one @Priller mentioned is the lack of wear on my phone battery. Having to have my phone simultaneously charging and on max brightness is really hard on the battery. You feel it in how hot your phone gets on long days of riding like this. If you aren't charging it at the same time and just have it running on max brightness, that's not going to get you through a day's ride and you run the risk of a dead phone in the event of an emergency.

And that brings me to the only thing I can add to Priller's excellent post above: having my phone on me.

When I'm touring, I usually keep my phone plugged in, in my jacket pocket. That way, if I get into an accident, and I get separated from my bike, I still have my phone on me. I do an annual monthly ride across Italy. Italy is super mountainous. You're riding on the side of hills and mountains throughout most of the country. If my bike goes over the guardrail and I don't, and my phone is handlebar mounted, that means my phone is now 200 ft below me. If I go over the guard rail, and my phone doesn't, my phone is now 200 ft above me. How the **** am I going to call for help if my phone is on my bike? lol I can't. I'm ******.
 
As a person never having wireless android auto, how is the battery draw with it on? I assume far better than screen on but also a lot more draw than just idling? Or does google track you so much on a normal day that android auto basically makes no difference?

I can't say to be honest. It's definitely way less than having the screen on max brightness, probably the same as any other bluetooth device you would be paired to like bluetooth headphones/speaker/whatever.

I usually keep my phone plugged in and charging in my pocket for any kind of ride over half an hour so it's basically always full when I get where I'm going.
 
As a person never having wireless android auto, how is the battery draw with it on? I assume far better than screen on but also a lot more draw than just idling? Or does google track you so much on a normal day that android auto basically makes no difference?
It draws more I prefer to keep it plugged in when possible


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As a person never having wireless android auto, how is the battery draw with it on? I assume far better than screen on but also a lot more draw than just idling? Or does google track you so much on a normal day that android auto basically makes no difference?
Similar experience to above. I find it's no biggie for my commute and for shorter runs around Niagara, but would need supplementing for a full day, either USB to the motorcycle or a decent battery bank.

I forgot another benefit to the head unit, though this is more in comparison to a dedicated GPS than to mounting a phone on the handlebars: if you are a helmet headset type, you can control your music, calls and do Google voice control. I like this for something like swapping from the routing app to Google Maps to find the closest gas station or other POI.
 
I didn't dig into these before posting as I didn't want to see propaganda but rather get info from real people using them. So if it is just mirroring your phone and relies on your phone connectivity to the network, why not just use your phone?
I changed for a couple of reasons. First, I lost 2 phones out of my decent quality RAM mount. Second, the phone is a pia to mount/dismount every time I leave the bike. Last, the screen is too small on my phone, I like the larger 7”.

All the same reasons I use CarPlay in my vehicles instead of a phone mount.
 
Thanks for the input. I ordered the LAMTTO unit yesterday. I really never considered what damage I could be doing to my phone with all the vibration on the bike and it never occurred to me that I could be separated from the phone in the event of an accident - and that should be obvious. I never claimed to be smart :).
 
Good thread to come into at this time. I'm in need of an Android tablet / screen that I can mirror from my phone to the bike.

Tired of using a small phone and trying to figure things out or having to lean down to look at it.

Will be looking into recommendations here or if someone is selling let me know!

I have a literal container of OLD car GPS units that are just laying there...should really turn them on to see if they still work, but I think this solution would be a better path forward. Not just gotta figure out the real estate issue on the Scrambler with the lower bar.
 
Thanks for the input. I ordered the LAMTTO unit yesterday. I really never considered what damage I could be doing to my phone with all the vibration on the bike and it never occurred to me that I could be separated from the phone in the event of an accident - and that should be obvious. I never claimed to be smart :).
So you getting a new bike to go with this? I think you had a thread about a 2nd bike, did it happen? Still time xmas will be here!
 
Good thread to come into at this time. I'm in need of an Android tablet / screen that I can mirror from my phone to the bike.

Hey MP - just keep in mind it won't be proper "mirror"-ing, as in, it won't be an exact replica of what's happening on your screen. Android Auto is just a simplified version of android, like a stripped down version, with basically only what you would need while driving and nothing more.

So for example, you can read a text and use voice to text to send a reply if you want to, but you won't be able to use a full keyboard to reply... But you can still do that to type in an address in Waze/Google Maps... You also won't have access to all apps either, so for example, no YouTube, Instagram, etc.

Some units do offer the ability to actually mirror your phone screen, but I think you typically have to pay a little extra for the ones with that, and honestly, while the device I have in my truck can do that too, I've never bothered with the mirror'ing, and the one time I did try, the touch screen of the device wasn't working, so mirroring was more trouble than it was worth. Android Auto is enough for me.
 
Thanks for the input. I ordered the LAMTTO unit yesterday. I really never considered what damage I could be doing to my phone with all the vibration on the bike and it never occurred to me that I could be separated from the phone in the event of an accident - and that should be obvious. I never claimed to be smart :).
Nice! Hope it's as good to you as mine has been to me. Finding the cleanest install is the hardest bit. Also, it's obvious but I'm going to restate it anyway: make sure it's connected to a switched power source or your battery will be dead in no time. The instructions are surprisingly decent if I recall...

Hey MP - just keep in mind it won't be proper "mirror"-ing, as in, it won't be an exact replica of what's happening on your screen. Android Auto is just a simplified version of android, like a stripped down version, with basically only what you would need while driving and nothing more.
For me, this is far superior to true mirroring. I don't want all my alerts and icons, and I want everything to be super-sized so it's easy to tap and does the bare necessities for the things I need when driving/riding. Even the Google Maps app is simplified and made chunkier, eliminating things like being able to select departure/arrival times etc.

In other words, the less I have to squint at the screen to find what I need, the better...
 
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