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[crankcall]

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That’s next level crazy , outside most of my buddies ( thanks for the vote of confidence lol) . There is some truly elegant woodwork being done , it’s not the original price , it’s care and feeding that will choke you .


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[mimico_polak]

Well this is interesting…have seen split canoes / kayaks…

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[crankcall]

I could see that plastic boat being handy if you needed a remote boat you could get into a distant lake and fit it all into a pickup truck box . Cool idea , bet it’s expensive as heck.


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[crankcall]

Crane is booked , we will thirty six boats in tomorrow between eight am and about one pm . We have started to use a one hundred and twenty ton crane so he can park and pickup boats over a one hundred foot circle without moving the machine . It’s eight hundred an hour plus drive and set up time , but well worth it over the day .


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[mimico_polak]

Crane is booked , we will thirty six boats in tomorrow between eight am and about one pm . We have started to use a one hundred and twenty ton crane so he can park and pickup boats over a one hundred foot circle without moving the machine . It’s eight hundred an hour plus drive and set up time , but well worth it over the day .


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Got some cool pics?

As for boats…

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/1kdystv/if_i_ever_won_the_lottery_i_wont_tell_anybody_but

 

[PrivatePilot]

Neat idea, but unless it can do at least 60-80kph on the road (and is road legal to begin with, neither of which seem likely), I'm not sure I see the point really. You can't even really load it on a regular boat trailer anymore at that point, so what, you go from boat trailer to flatbed trailer I guess?

 

[GreyGhost]

Neat idea, but unless it can do at least 60-80kph on the road (and is road legal to begin with, neither of which seem likely), I'm not sure I see the point really. You can't even really load it on a regular boat trailer anymore at that point, so what, you go from boat trailer to flatbed trailer I guess?

Run it up the lawn to you garage? Beach party? Portage to next lake? Definitely a niche use case. Most people would be better served without all that crap on the boat.

On that note, I was confused looking at one of Abromovich's big boats (Ecstasea, 282 ft). Conventional power is four diesels that add to 12,500 hp powering two props. That gets you 25 knots. If you want to go faster, you fire up the 31,000 hp turbine which powers a jet to increase top speed to 30 knots. Wtf. The number of times you fire up that extra propulsion system for the extra 5 knots is probably very low. The jet makes the rear of the boat look weird. At speed, the jet is in the air.

 

[PrivatePilot]

Take a look at the video of that yacht when it had a booboo in St. Maarten a few years ago. Cap had a bad day that day.

 

[nobbie48]

Neat idea, but unless it can do at least 60-80kph on the road (and is road legal to begin with, neither of which seem likely), I'm not sure I see the point really. You can't even really load it on a regular boat trailer anymore at that point, so what, you go from boat trailer to flatbed trailer I guess?

It reminds me of the Amphicar when it came out. For a fraction the money you could buy a VW Beetle and a fishing boat getting you better performance on both land and water. The VW, towing a boat, could lap the Amphicar.

 

[GreyGhost]

It reminds me of the Amphicar when it came out. For a fraction the money you could buy a VW Beetle and a fishing boat getting you better performance on both land and water. The VW, towing a boat, could lap the Amphicar.

My dad had one long before I existed. An interesting novelty but at best a marginal car and crap boat. Similar to an argo, for a very small percentage of people, a small percentage of the time, the tradeoff is worthwhile but most people are better served with separate land and water vehicles.

This track boat thing is just crypto bros with f you money rolling up on the beach and waving their *&^^s around.

 

[GreyGhost]

Starport saga continues.

'Slap in the face': Roof collapse at Starport Marina still causing waves of frustration for local boaters

'Everyone has been paid 100 per cent of their fees,' claims Starport manager; boaters say they were 'robbed blind' in wake of roof collapse

www.orilliamatters.com

@PrivatePilot did the Doral deal happen?

 

[nhoj]

Starport saga continues.

'Slap in the face': Roof collapse at Starport Marina still causing waves of frustration for local boaters

'Everyone has been paid 100 per cent of their fees,' claims Starport manager; boaters say they were 'robbed blind' in wake of roof collapse

www.orilliamatters.com

@PrivatePilot did the Doral deal happen?

What a load of crap.. Orillia (does not) Matters.

Read the comments in the article. That couple was wandering around the marina last week complaining about how badly they were treated yet all the members we know that lost boats (in this marina) seemed to be as satisfied as they could be.

Insurance companies settled quicky, some members have actually bought replacement boats already. They all were allowed to remove personal items from their boats. Many of the boats were purchased by salvage companies and several left the marina under their own power.

The 'whining' couple in the article seemed to misunderstand marine insurance as they felt they had replacement cost rather than agreed upon cost which is the actual "insured value".

We won't miss them.

 

[crankcall]

I went to a marine insurance seminar hosted by the senior VP of Robertson&Robertson , now part of Aviva I think. Boat insurance is not like car or house insurance. Different in many ways . Example : if you take home cushions / canvas/ life jackets and the boat is written off , that stuff is not covered. Take sails home ? That’s not covered in the event of a boat loss. Make big improvements and not update your insurance? Good luck. So many boats are “under insured “ to keep premiums low and then disasters hits . Get your boat evaluated properly , don’t hire your drinking buddy to do a survey and make sure you have enough insurance. If a boat like the story has sells for one ten and ninety nine for two replacement options and your is insured for seventy . Well that’s sort of a you problem.
Ps, if I was the insurance companies and could write off all those boats ? Yup one hundred percent . Otherwise your dealing with some knuckle heads that think thirty year old gell coat repairs will be invisible, even though trim parts haven’t existed for twenty years you should be able to find some and what do you mean it will take six months to fix ? You’ve stolen my life ……


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[PrivatePilot]

The 'whining' couple in the article seemed to misunderstand marine insurance as they felt they had replacement cost rather than agreed upon cost which is the actual "insured value".

I read that article the same way. Typical "we didn't read the insurance contract we signed and now that we actually need that insurance we're angry about what we signed, so this is someone else's fault!" situation.

And then there was the bit about people taking payouts and not being happy with the amounts....but did they negotiate? Did they make counter offers and try to get fair valuations, or did they just take the first offer the insurance company offered and want to now complain about it? I'm reminded again of when our past camper was lost in an accident and the insurance companies first offer was under $5000. No bueno, they didn't really like dealing with me I'm sure as although I'm polite, I'm also determined - we ended up settling for not far under $20k which put is in a good situation to buy a 10 year newer model of the exact same trailer which is what we wanted. But if we'd have just taken the first offer and grumped about it, we'd have left almost $15K on the table.

 

[nobbie48]

I went to a marine insurance seminar hosted by the senior VP of Robertson&Robertson , now part of Aviva I think. Boat insurance is not like car or house insurance. Different in many ways . Example : if you take home cushions / canvas/ life jackets and the boat is written off , that stuff is not covered. Take sails home ? That’s not covered in the event of a boat loss. Make big improvements and not update your insurance? Good luck. So many boats are “under insured “ to keep premiums low and then disasters hits . Get your boat evaluated properly , don’t hire your drinking buddy to do a survey and make sure you have enough insurance. If a boat like the story has sells for one ten and ninety nine for two replacement options and your is insured for seventy . Well that’s sort of a you problem.
Ps, if I was the insurance companies and could write off all those boats ? Yup one hundred percent . Otherwise your dealing with some knuckle heads that think thirty year old gell coat repairs will be invisible, even though trim parts haven’t existed for twenty years you should be able to find some and what do you mean it will take six months to fix ? You’ve stolen my life ……


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Covid messed with the prices of toys and I haven't followed the market to see the present state.

Secondly, armchair quarterbacks have leisure time to speculate the possibilities for an individual boat. The adjusters have a marina full without the option of years to resolve the mess while paying storage, hoping the owners will be happy with the end result.

 

[PrivatePilot]

Covid messed with the prices of toys and I haven't followed the market to see the present state.

It's come back down to reality in most cases, and gone below pre-covid in many cases even as people have clamped down on their wallets with all the current uncertainty.

I saw it first hand with the boat search from earlier in this thread - last fall prices (well, asking anyways) were still high-ish, but had started to normalize even then, but over the winter and especially this spring prices dropped dramatically. Vessels that were in the $100K range last summer are struggling to get eyeballs on them at ~$85K this spring, for example.

For anyone interested, my sister and BIL didn't end up buying the Doral that I'd discussed earlier in this thread. The survey came back with some concerns which they were willing to work through at the right price, but it also needed a lot of other work and in the end they couldn't come to a price that was agreeable. The final nail in the deal I think was when we went up (when the boat was on the hard) to try to get the genny running to verify operation and it wouldn't even start. Could be just the carb. Probably. Could be the mainboard or the entire genset itself. Who knows. Could be a $250 repair. Could be a $15K replacement. It also needed a $10k new entire canvas set, a new cockpit door to the salon, and a lot of other stuff, so it ended up being a pass.

 

[crankcall]

Now that a new Doral is three hundred K plus , it is propping up prices on used . We looked last week ( not too seriously ) at a Grady White cuddy cabin mini cruiser . It was pretty clean but the small stuff needed ( canvas) and electronics would add ten to twelve Gs , which sure wasn’t reflected in price . My plan was add enough solar it could live for days at anchor , not enough flat surfaces .


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