MPS, why haven't you quit yet? If you were my friend I would have taken you aside by now and calmly asked you to stop making yourself look Ike an idiot. No one mentioned cops doing the search, they were talking about security guards.
Bike stolen today :( Insurance claim question
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LoneRonin
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Well I should have specified, but it is in fact on their entrance doors, maybe exit as well but I just noticed it going in.
if the cops can't do it
what makes you think some rent a cop can ?
or why should rent a cop be given this power ?
what makes you think some rent a cop can ?
or why should rent a cop be given this power ?
Maybe we should start with a response like this:
MPS - You are correct that private security guards do not have the right to search you.
Let's move to the next point: Private security guards DO have the right to restrict access to the private property they've been hired to protect. YOU don't have an absolute right to enter that property unless the owner of the property permits it.
Therefore, if the property owners choose to impose a condition for access, and the person seeking entry chooses not to comply (as is their right), the security staff can then decline to permit access.
It's that simple, and there have been several simple and relevant examples provided (access to a sporting event or private house being two very good ones). Security staff simply make a request. If you don't like it, exercise your rights. Say no, and go away.
These aren't theories, they are facts.
I understand that, which kinda makes the sign useless. Its used as a deterrent and to scare the occasional person into "volunteering" or "consenting" to a search. However you refuse and there is nothing that can be done by them.
Next time you're at best buy give it a shot. When the guy at the front asks you for your receipt "Say no thanks and keep walking".
Or when that stupid scanner at the door starts beeping and the wal-mart greeter runs over to check your bags say "no thank you" and keep going.
They'll be startled and shocked that someone didn't follow their command, but thats as far as they will go.
... and with the amount of stupid **** i still see being done on the road-ways, with the current stunt laws in effect now.. in some cases i would think following up that seizure with a junkyard compacting upon conviction in a Court of Law would be in perfect order. Some people, and/or their toys just don't have any business being on the road, and putting others at risk with their idiocy. I seriously don't like the stunt laws either .. but sometimes extreme measures, for extreme stupidity are called for.
This doesn't have anything to do with Condo thefts, however.. so your comments about search and inspection/seizure are null and void.
These aren't theories, they are facts.
I understand that, which kinda makes the sign useless. Its used as a deterrent and to scare the occasional person into "volunteering" or "consenting" to a search. However you refuse and there is nothing that can be done by them.
Next time you're at best buy give it a shot. When the guy at the front asks you for your receipt "Say no thanks and keep walking".
Or when that stupid scanner at the door starts beeping and the wal-mart greeter runs over to check your bags say "no thank you" and keep going.
They'll be startled and shocked that someone didn't follow their command, but thats as far as they will go.
Very true. At Costco, people line up and wait to show their receipt when leaving. I just avoid the line and go on through. Sure, they can potentially revoke youir membership as their membership policy states that the receipt/item checking process is agreed to, but they absolutely cannot legally stop you from leaving the store with your purchased goods.
LoneRonin
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I wouldn't always try that depending on what you're getting...I work at a retail clothing store in Mississauga and sometimes the magnetic sensor tags get left on, then people walk out despite the beeps, sometimes the damn thing doesn't beep at all...
Then we have angry customers coming back from far as hell (we're the only store in the whole country) ****** off that we forgot to take off sensors...when it could have been done right there and then if they actually chose to stop and let us take them off. We once had a couple all the way from London come back a few weeks later... What none of them realize is many stores employ similar anti-theft deterrents with the magnetic thingy, if they went to any store with their receipt and something similar I'm sure they'd be more than happy to remove them.
Lol I wouldn't try that too much....some of the retiree employees at Costco have this John Wayne attitude and they'll chase you out. I had walked in and purchased one thing and this 70 year old guy tried chasing me out of the store, tripped and fell. Somehow people got the impression I hit him lol
Next time you fall to the ground by his feet and curl into a fetal position and scream stop kicking me, stop it, stop kicking me.
Stay on the ground wait for the medics.
Collect your settlement buy new bike and renew your Costco membership.
JBizzle
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My bike was stolen from underground parking sept 2012. I had it for 6 weeks.
Just make sure you play hard ball with insurance company Sony oy.can at least recoup what you spent.
Just make sure you play hard ball with insurance company Sony oy.can at least recoup what you spent.
