Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

Most people over 50 aren’t going to make 500 km straight driving unless they’re severely dehydrated. It’s an absolute doddle to just stop for 20 minutes and throw some juice in. Superchargers are all along 401 from one end to the other and they’ll accept almost every brand now. Hybrids to me are the worst of both worlds and it’s no surprise oil companies and dealerships continue to push for them.
 
One of my customers has an electric his wife drives. He was telling me how most of the year his wife can make it to Waterloo and back where she works just fine, but in the winter the range drops down and she has range anxiety and basically has to fart out the window for forward propulsion to help get her ass back home.......

As someone who started vehicle ownership as a broke student, and still enjoys his shitboxes, I'm very familiar with the "Will I or won't I make it" dread... but having to deal with that every single day? That sounds miserable.

135 liter gas tank in my F-150.
 
One of my customers has an electric his wife drives. He was telling me how most of the year his wife can make it to Waterloo and back where she works just fine, but in the winter the range drops down and she has range anxiety and basically has to fart out the window for forward propulsion to help get her ass back home.......

As someone who started vehicle ownership as a broke student, and still enjoys his shitboxes, I'm very familiar with the "Will I or won't I make it" dread... but having to deal with that every single day? That sounds miserable.

135 liter gas tank in my F-150.
So 250 in gas or 15 dollars in electricity for the same distance hard choice.

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So 250 in gas or 15 dollars in electricity for the same distance hard choice.

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My truck is what makes me money.

Never having to stop and wait = never missing out on customers.

Take care of two customers in a day and the $235 difference is net even and I still have 800 more km worth of fuel in the tank...

I agree that my way is not best for everyone, but neither is waiting to charge a battery or driving around with the heat or AC off, so there's that...
 
Australia likely just a step ahead of Canada in the EV rush ....combined with the crazy home battery surge.
No automotive industry to protect and maybe higher hydrocarbon fuel costs here

Australia currently is getting along mostly with China so that helps too. Chinese EVs well on their way to part of the auto establishment and no limits on imports.
 
Australia likely just a step ahead of Canada in the EV rush ....combined with the crazy home battery surge.
No automotive industry to protect and maybe higher hydrocarbon fuel costs here

Australia currently is getting along mostly with China so that helps too. Chinese EVs well on their way to part of the auto establishment and no limits on imports.

If we had Australia's climate and sun hours, we'd probably be closer to where you guys are now down there.

Sydney gets 600+ more hours of sunlight than Toronto a year, and it's more evenly distributed throughout the year, so a lot more incentive to invest in solar, more incentive to do the e-cage thing.


Here my father in law's solar setup couldn't even keep his ATV batteries topped up over the winter.
 
Yep Canada is challenged for solar but wind is woefully under developed and Ontario has a solid nuclear base, Quebec immense hydro plus the cold weather is also a challenge.
Many houses like ours have no heat source at all.
Canada generally has to have energy and housing for 4 seasons .....tho cyclones not a worry. :sneaky:
 
My truck is what makes me money.

Never having to stop and wait = never missing out on customers.

Take care of two customers in a day and the $235 difference is net even and I still have 800 more km worth of fuel in the tank...

I agree that my way is not best for everyone, but neither is waiting to charge a battery or driving around with the heat or AC off, so there's that...
In the service business flexibility is important. If a panic call comes in the answer is yes, I'll come, not let me check my batteries, range, expected availability of charge points, internet outages affecting connections etc.
 
My truck is what makes me money.

Never having to stop and wait = never missing out on customers.

Take care of two customers in a day and the $235 difference is net even and I still have 800 more km worth of fuel in the tank...

I agree that my way is not best for everyone, but neither is waiting to charge a battery or driving around with the heat or AC off, so there's that...
Fair enough if you use it for truck things in the bed or drive more than 400 km daily and don't have 15 minutes to charge.

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In the service business flexibility is important. If a panic call comes in the answer is yes, I'll come, not let me check my batteries, range, expected availability of charge points, internet outages affecting connections etc.

Yep. 100%. I've had jobs take me from Ohio to east of Ottawa and up to an hour shy of North Bay.

Around the GTA, you can always find a gas station, usually open late too, but in the boonies, not only are they few and far between, with not many of them having chargers, but a lot of them close early by my standards! Stressful enough wondering if the gas stations along my way home will be open past 7 PM so I can make it home tonight... can't imagine the stress of having to go out of my way to find somewhere I can charge, not knowing if I'll find a charger working when I get there, or if I'll have to wait for some other jackass already using it lol

I'd end up driving around with a jerry can and a generator every day lol... which means having to carry a generator in and out of the house every day... Who needs all that trouble?

Or.... 135 liter fuel tank on my 2.7 liter ecoboost that gets better economy than my V-Rod (premium-only, guzzler) did. No-brainer.
 
Yep. 100%. I've had jobs take me from Ohio to east of Ottawa and up to an hour shy of North Bay.

Around the GTA, you can always find a gas station, usually open late too, but in the boonies, not only are they few and far between, with not many of them having chargers, but a lot of them close early by my standards! Stressful enough wondering if the gas stations along my way home will be open past 7 PM so I can make it home tonight... can't imagine the stress of having to go out of my way to find somewhere I can charge, not knowing if I'll find a charger working when I get there, or if I'll have to wait for some other jackass already using it lol

I'd end up driving around with a jerry can and a generator every day lol... which means having to carry a generator in and out of the house every day... Who needs all that trouble?

Or.... 135 liter fuel tank on my 2.7 liter ecoboost that gets better economy than my V-Rod (premium-only, guzzler) did. No-brainer.
Most charging apps will advise how many charge stations are at the spot, how many are in use and how many are available etc.

And I’ve found the enroute stops along the 400 series are zoos at the pumps and even for food. Sometimes you can get off the highway for fuel and food at a different exit you normally don’t take and it’s way faster. And many have DC fast changing for EVs.

Being a PHEV owner now, my confidence in EV only travel has improved to the point I’m certain our next grocery getter will be EV.

I’ll still have petro machines like motorcycles and hobby cars and maybe a towing vehicle. But, for general commuting with a passenger or two and every day stuff, EV is very practical.


I’m even working on my FIL to look into a Tesla with self drive subscription because it would be far safer than him driving himself. He’s fascinated with it as much as I am.

However, winter range is still a bit of a concern but, it’s easing as I modify my own travel habits during the winter.
 
EV's aren't there yet to meet everyone's needs that's for sure. I go from 5.5km/kWh summer time to 2.4 km in the winter if the vehicle is -17C cold-soaked. There's various ways to mitigate it but as I've observed at work explaining it to people, I get intent listening or eye glazing/rolling.

On the Niro, I can turn battery heating off in the winter to increase range. The Prologue gives me no such option and will consume 6 kWh trying to warm it and the cabin up. Add another 3 kWh for the heat pump compressor and that's 9 kWh draw from an 85 kWh battery for an decent amount of time. I'm basically losing almost 10% battery capacity per hour for as long as it runs compared to summer.

I've seen videos of Lightning owners getting (IIRC) 1km/kWh in the winter while towing. I believe none of the other options like Rivian or GM are much better.
 
On my last trip from Harrow to Ottawa (4x last year) I charged overnight to 100%, then stopped to charge/eat at Ingersoll SC then on to Coburg SC (Starbucks coffee) and finally Brockville SC (Dairy Queen). Total charge time was around 1.3 hr. Topped up at an Electrify Canada in Ottawa for the journey back and repeated the stops.

Even though it was Labour Day weekend, I didn't have to wait for a charger once and I ended up helping a guy trying to charge his Lyric for the first time at a SC. Gave me an impressive Pink Floyd demonstration of the 19 speaker AKG sound system.

Could probably shave some charging time off all that by riding the GM charging curve but that's too much work for me, wasn't in any rush although I've done it a couple of times before.

FWIW.
 
Most charging apps will advise how many charge stations are at the spot, how many are in use and how many are available etc.

And I’ve found the enroute stops along the 400 series are zoos at the pumps and even for food. Sometimes you can get off the highway for fuel and food at a different exit you normally don’t take and it’s way faster. And many have DC fast changing for EVs.

Being a PHEV owner now, my confidence in EV only travel has improved to the point I’m certain our next grocery getter will be EV.

I’ll still have petro machines like motorcycles and hobby cars and maybe a towing vehicle. But, for general commuting with a passenger or two and every day stuff, EV is very practical.


I’m even working on my FIL to look into a Tesla with self drive subscription because it would be far safer than him driving himself. He’s fascinated with it as much as I am.

However, winter range is still a bit of a concern but, it’s easing as I modify my own travel habits during the winter.
We have a ev and a PHEV it was the plug in that convinced me to go full ev. The hybrid just introduces 2x as many things to break and if it just had a bigger battery there would be no need for the engine.

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We have a ev and a PHEV it was the plug in that convinced me to go full ev. The hybrid just introduces 2x as many things to break and if it just had a bigger battery there would be no need for the engine.

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That's what I learned owning the Volt. Lower battery range because I was lugging around an engine and trans, and higher fuel consumption because I was lugging around a battery system. Plus I still had oil changes annually and fuel to put into it if I went over 50 or so kms on battery or drove in the winter. There was little BEV options at the time but now? Lots of choices and it's only going to increase.
 
If my FIL installs a 240 vac outlet he intends for his welding stuff at the side of the house, it’s pretty much a no brainer. Once he does that, I’m taking him shopping for a Tesla. He could end up with something else but, I’m pushing for FSD and willing to pay the monthly sub for him.


Side note, when we get to Chesterville to stay for a week with the FIL and do some driving to visit family and friends, the overnight charging options are less than convenient. Petro life is still alive and doing well out in the sticks.
 
I was at Sherway mall a couple days ago and sat in the teslas, was mildly surprised at how much i liked them, decently priced also
 
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If my FIL installs a 240 vac outlet he intends for his welding stuff at the side of the house, it’s pretty much a no brainer. Once he does that, I’m taking him shopping for a Tesla. He could end up with something else but, I’m pushing for FSD and willing to pay the monthly sub for him.


Side note, when we get to Chesterville to stay for a week with the FIL and do some driving to visit family and friends, the overnight charging options are less than convenient. Petro life is still alive and doing well out in the sticks.
We have supercruise it does very well on rural Rds and highway. Doesn't work in cities and requires you to drive at lights and stops signs etc. it is nicer that it is fully hands free when engaged the Tesla requires you to have a hand on the wheel.

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Question, when the battery dies does it need to be trickle charged to bring it back on line or can you plug straight in and the magic automatically happens?
 
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