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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

crankcall

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The Rav Hybrid looks really good. We have been thinking of downsizing to one vehicle. We have a 2010 civic with 66,000km(really!) And a 2013 Tacoma with 98,000km. We should be able to get good prices for them to get a Rav. But a new Rav is going to be about $50,000.I know it would be cheap to own, but it's just not justified.
its easy , your missus isnt driving right now, ditch the civic, keep the taco. Done. save 50K . tow a trailer or whatever.
send me $500 for saving you 50K , or buy me a beer, I'm in KW every week
 

FullMotoJacket

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Porsche goes head to head vs. Tesla at the Ring.

 

nakkers

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I reviewed my mileage log from the last couple of years and see if I could alter some of the trips taken to accommodate an EV. Even take into consideration if I have a trip to Windsor or Ottawa, I could rent something else to make the trip. Ran that by the boss and they said no to renting a vehicle for business use when the trip originates where I live and in my territory.

I also travel to London every other week. That is roughly 400 kilometres or more round trip. The meetings I have don’t allow me to find a charging station, have the meeting unless the client is willing to meet with me at the charging station.

About 70% of the driving, I could manage with the EV. Scarborough/Markham and back. Kitchener and back etc. These would be the farthest common destinations. Most are Richmond Hill, Brampton, etc.

I do have to get up to Collingwood, Owen Sound, North Bay, Peterborough etc. Not as often but, I do have to get there and back home.

I can see the attraction from my wife’s perspective. She drives to Burlington/Hamilton 5 days and week and back to St Cathrines. Typical round trip is within 200 kilometres. But, she has a newish car that is reasonably fuel efficient and doing the job. So, there is no compelling event to make the switch at this point.

I’ll cross the bridge of waiting for the RAV4 when it’s time to order. I’ve still got another 10k to go before it triggers the green light anyways. By then, it will be 2020 models.





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MSRP

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I reviewed my mileage log from the last couple of years and see if I could alter some of the trips taken to accommodate an EV. Even take into consideration if I have a trip to Windsor or Ottawa, I could rent something else to make the trip. Ran that by the boss and they said no to renting a vehicle for business use when the trip originates where I live and in my territory.

I also travel to London every other week. That is roughly 400 kilometres or more round trip. The meetings I have don’t allow me to find a charging station, have the meeting unless the client is willing to meet with me at the charging station.

About 70% of the driving, I could manage with the EV. Scarborough/Markham and back. Kitchener and back etc. These would be the farthest common destinations. Most are Richmond Hill, Brampton, etc.

I do have to get up to Collingwood, Owen Sound, North Bay, Peterborough etc. Not as often but, I do have to get there and back home.

I can see the attraction from my wife’s perspective. She drives to Burlington/Hamilton 5 days and week and back to St Cathrines. Typical round trip is within 200 kilometres. But, she has a newish car that is reasonably fuel efficient and doing the job. So, there is no compelling event to make the switch at this point.

I’ll cross the bridge of waiting for the RAV4 when it’s time to order. I’ve still got another 10k to go before it triggers the green light anyways. By then, it will be 2020 models.





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I assume switching cars with her on the long-haul days is out of the real of possibility w.r.t company car policies?
 

mimico_polak

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I assume switching cars with her on the long-haul days is out of the real of possibility w.r.t company car policies?
I'd say that's a fairly good suggestion actually....hell that may even work for @nakkers depending on how his company feels about using non-work vehicle for work driving.
I miss the days of being on the road to clients. Always something new.
 

nakkers

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I assume switching cars with her on the long-haul days is out of the real of possibility w.r.t company car policies?
I’ve put in a request to see about it.


It’s my understanding, it’s either one or the other. You have a company car and use it or have your own vehicle and get paid mileage.

Not optimistic they will allow a company vehicle and pay mileage for specific trips.

I lobbied for mileage sometime ago and was turned down. Lol.




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mimico_polak

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I’ve put in a request to see about it.


It’s my understanding, it’s either one or the other. You have a company car and use it or have your own vehicle and get paid mileage.

Not optimistic they will allow a company vehicle and pay mileage for specific trips.

I lobbied for mileage sometime ago and was turned down. Lol.




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I guess you could just not tell them...but then if something happens when your wife is using the company car that can cause you some issues.
 

Brian P

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Sure hope that's not intended to be the final design, because it's missing stuff that regulations are going to require ... like seat belts. Have they considered crash protection? Airbag positions (and supporting structures)? HVAC equipment?

For a vehicle of that general conceptual design, I think I'll hold out for the VW ID Buzz (or whatever it ends up being called).
 

PrivatePilot

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I saw seatbelts in the video.

Airbags, unsure, but that funky steering wheel would make it questionable. Gotta figure it has basics such as HVAC though especially with all that glass.

I don't get the marketing though. "Membership, not ownership". Is it a car sharing thing, or basically a glorified perpetual rental? The website is incredibly vague on a lot of things....
 

Brian P

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That lounge-style seating area (which doesn't put passengers in defined positions and defined orientations) doesn't look compatible with proper lap and shoulder belts.

On a more practical note, VW has presented the production version of the ID 3, and it looks pretty impressive. Unfortunately ... Not for North America.
 

Brian P

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Yeah. Meh, another crossover. The interesting one will be the ID Buzz (or whatever it ends up being called) - the new VW bus.
 

PrivatePilot

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Yep, totally saw THAT coming. Their inexperienced rush into steel vs aluminum is starting to rear it's ugly head.

If this is what they look like inside 12 months wait 3 or 4 years in the rust belt.
 

Brian P

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InsideEVs posted an article a few days ago about a rust spot where the left front fender contacts the door ring (inner structure) and got blasted by people blaming it on "the car has been in two accidents" (both of which were minor and did not involve the left front). And ... that apparently got people reporting on their own cars.


This is a design flaw, it's not the assembly line's fault. There are two choices when it comes to securing bodyshell parts together: (1) Bolted, welded, or clamped securely together so that they cannot move relative to each other at that location, or (2) Clearance of a couple millimeters minimum, so that they cannot come in contact with each other. Any parts that are touching will have relative motion due to vibration etc and that WILL go through the paint.

Of course, that the thickness of the paint is only perhaps a quarter of what it should be (although variable between about a quarter and half of what it should be) is a paint shop problem. Surely Tesla is aware of this. It's easy to fix. Why haven't they? Don't want to spend more money on paint?

It's also apparent that the cars do not have anything to protect the paint from getting sandblasted behind and under the wheel wells. Lots of cars have plastic film or essentially sprayed-on plastic "bed-liner" material in those areas.
 

Brian P

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I just finished reading the rest of the article above. There is some pretty atrocious panel fit in some of those photos.

But ... be that as it may. If anyone reading this happens to have a Model 3, and it happens to be found to have this rust problem, and you arrange to have it repaired before it becomes a major problem (which you should) ...

... Get the body shop to give the inner structure a carefully aimed whack with the ball end of a ball-peen hammer right at the spot where the fender is otherwise contacting it before they repaint it and re-install the fender. Get 1 or 2 mm of clearance there. A carefully placed dent should do it.
 

SunnY S

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Wouldn't concern me at all,

I wouldn't buy, I'd lease for no more than 4 years, the length of the Tesla warranty and turn it back in when Im done. . I wouldn't want to pay repairs on this type of vehicle at any age.

4 years from now, I'm sure they will have a far more compelling option to replace the 3 with and perhaps by then the other automakers will figure out how to make a competent electric vehicle.

btw, Tesla Canada states in their warranty.... "Sheet metal: Limited lifetime" warranty, not sure if that covers the above problems?
 

Wingboy

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Sheet metal: Limited lifetime" warranty, not sure if that covers the above problems?
There will be catch to that. Lifetime warranty to "perforation" most likely. Most warranties aren't worth the paper they are written on.
 

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