COVID and the housing market

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3" EMT........Christ are you planning on putting in a new 350A service in your house? You can run 96 x #14 wires in a 3" conduit (before de-rating). Just make sure you use EMT and not PVC in your house as an inspector will fail your inspection (if you have an open permit).

I just ran a string up my pipe chase to get to the second floor - never used it in 15 years. When running underground to out buildings I always recommend running an extra 1" conduit for just in case, but truthfully so many things are controlled wirelessly now (security and lighting control) the only other thing one might need something is for a hot tub or as EVSE close to an out building
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a 3” conduit gives you room for more than electrical wire, and it’s very easy to fish.

I’ve only taken advantage of my pre installed conduits a couple of times. i used the conduit to my detached garage for a hot water recirculating line, an intercom to the house and ethernet cable.

In my sons house, we used it to run a 60amp line and a cold water fill line from his mechanical room to a hot tub behind the house.
 
410001661 said:
3" EMT........Christ are you planning on putting in a new 350A service in your house? You can run 96 x #14 wires in a 3" conduit (before de-rating). Just make sure you use EMT and not PVC in your house as an inspector will fail your inspection (if you have an open permit).
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Never had issues with pvc electrical conduit inside a house. You can’t use drain line pvc, or abs, but I’ve never been failed on electrical conduit inside.
 
I know nothing but a sixty amp power feed and a water line in the same conduit would keep me up at night .


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How is the housing market affecting the investment market? People not in the housing squeeze shouldn't be affected but but those tied into a nearing pre-build closing aren't likely to be topping up any plans.

Are the investment gurus taking a hit with new money?

Is anyone not afraid of domino effects?
 
In the late 90s Brampton mirrored Markham demographically and socially - about 15% of the population were visible minorities. In 40 years that has inverted, with about 81% visible minority today.

In the 80s, Brampton and Markham were largely rural and suburban communities with a mostly European population.

Markham became Canada’s largest Chinese municipality, and Brampton one of the largest south East Asian communities.

Both had massive demographic changes, one community did it well, the other…. Not so much.
 
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In the late 90s Brampton mirrored Markham demographically and socially - about 15% of the population were visible minorities. In 40 years that has inverted, with about 81% visible minority today.

In the 80s, Brampton and Markham were largely rural and suburban communities with a mostly European population.

Markham became Canada’s largest Chinese municipality, and Brampton one of the largest south East Asian communities.

Both had massive demographic changes, one community did it well, the other…. Not so much.
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I think that has more to do with the type of people that migrated into these communities rather than the migration itself - ability to assimilate, adapt a skill, or trade and become gainfully employed, and avoidance of illegal activities.
 
410001661 said:
I think that has more to do with the type of people that migrated into these communities rather than the migration itself - ability to assimilate, adapt a skill, or trade and become gainfully employed, and avoidance of illegal activities.
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It's not the 'ability' to XYZ. It's the 'willingness' to do so.

Many new immigrants, regardless of where they're from, will just outright refuse to integrate and assimilate.

Plenty of Polish, Italian, Portuguese, etc etc that have lived here for 20-30-40 years and still don't bother with English because they surround themselves with their original local communities.
 
410001661 said:
I think that has more to do with the type of people that migrated into these communities rather than the migration itself - ability to assimilate, adapt a skill, or trade and become gainfully employed, and avoidance of illegal activities.
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True, most of the demographic changes in Markham came from a large migration of Hong Kong Chinese who came with money, education, an industrious culture, low tolerance for crime, and anxious to assimilate.

Brampton also failed in a lot of areas that Markham did not. Schools, infrastructure, density management, poverty, traffic enforcement, property standards, crime, unemployment are all heavily influenced by civic leadership - Brampton has not done any of these well and after 2 decades, things are messy.

The best thing Markham did was avoid low cost townhouse tracts. There are a few, but most are upscale enclaves. You need money and decent cash flow to afford anything.

Socialist out there might scream because there’s almost zero low cost or social housing in Markham. Thing is, it’s not required - there are no street folks, safe injection sites, or encampments. I never hear resident tax players complain.
 
mimico_polak said:
It's not the 'ability' to XYZ. It's the 'willingness' to do so.

Many new immigrants, regardless of where they're from, will just outright refuse to integrate and assimilate.

Plenty of Polish, Italian, Portuguese, etc etc that have lived here for 20-30-40 years and still don't bother with English because they surround themselves with their original local communities.
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That’s true to some degree. I grew up in north Scarborough, lots of Italians, Poles and Portuguese and Greek working class families.

My Greek neighbour is 90, she emigrated to Canada when she was 16, raised 3 kids. She doesn’t speak English beyond a dozen words. I’ve known several friends with grandmas like that.

I find Chinese in my hood are eager to integrate. They get English down fast, keep properties up, and mix well with us visible minorities. They might house grandma or grandpa, but there are few homes with multiple families or a dozen people.
 
Mad Mike said:
That’s true to some degree. I grew up in north Scarborough, lots of Italians, Poles and Portuguese and Greek working class families.

My Greek neighbour is 90, she emigrated to Canada when she was 16, raised 3 kids. She doesn’t speak English beyond a dozen words. I’ve known several friends with grandmas like that.

I find Chinese in my hood are eager to integrate. They get English down fast, keep properties up, and mix well with us visible minorities. They might house grandma or grandpa, but there are few homes with multiple families or a dozen people.
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I grew up in East Hamilton and went to school with mostly white UK backgrounds, Italians, Portuguese, and some Pol's. All of them worked hard, valued education, kept their property in excellent condition and had very strong family ties - many had Grd Parents living with them. They were respectful of each other, assimilated to become valuable members of the community, called out crime and criminals, and never ever pulled the race card.
 
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I grew up in East Hamilton and went to school with mostly white UK backgrounds, Italians, Portuguese, and some Pol's. All of them worked hard, valued education, kept their property in excellent condition and had very strong family ties - many had Grd Parents living with them. They were respectful of each other, assimilated to become valuable members of the community, called out crime and criminals, and never ever pulled the race card.
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My high school classmates were roughly 1/3 each Eastern European, Italian and Wasp. We constantly feuded with each other but if an outsider tried anything we were 100% United Nations and they backed off.

A friend's wife has been in English speaking lands for over 20 years but has not embraced the culture. Her English couldn't get her a fast food job and her choice of words can be insulting when one doesn't understand the nuances.
 
Mad Mike said:
That’s true to some degree. I grew up in north Scarborough, lots of Italians, Poles and Portuguese and Greek working class families.

My Greek neighbour is 90, she emigrated to Canada when she was 16, raised 3 kids. She doesn’t speak English beyond a dozen words. I’ve known several friends with grandmas like that.

I find Chinese in my hood are eager to integrate. They get English down fast, keep properties up, and mix well with us visible minorities. They might house grandma or grandpa, but there are few homes with multiple families or a dozen people.
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My good friends parents came over from Greece in the early 50's. He quickly moved out of Toronto to Niagara where we worked for a farmer. he learned english, and saved up enough money to bring his wife over then they saved up for their first farm which was bought in early 1960's. They scrimped, saved, farmed and worked a full time job and made some good financial decisions regarding farming and real estate and amassed a small fortune by todays standard - approx. $12-$15M. Never once did they rely on government handouts.

Until his passing he always considered himself Canadian first and foremost.
 
There were literally thousands that came here and took a similar path . Staying on the right side of the law and paying your bills was what mattered. You were respected inside and outside your community for those values .
Things have changed . Hard work to get ahead is for suckers , there is no shame within certain communities for being a scam artist and ‘gansta’



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crankcall said:
There were literally thousands that came here and took a similar path . Staying on the right side of the law and paying your bills was what mattered. You were respected inside and outside your community for those values .
Things have changed . Hard work to get ahead is for suckers , there is no shame within certain communities for being a scam artist and ‘gansta’



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Thousands? No, millions.

Until the 90s, incentive for immigrating to Canada was a better life with boundless opportunity. Come, integrate, work hard and live the dream. Starting was hard, so the meek and lazy didn’t have incentive to come. Standards were in place so immigration served both the country and newcomers.

That changed. The same opportunity exists today, but a new incentive crept in - come for the generous welfare. Standards were lowered to drive population growth, laws softened to make removals slow and expensive, support low skilled labour, and oversight of fraud was reduced to near zero.

This attracted millions that are challenged to provide mutual benefit to society and the newcomer.

In the 2 decades Prior to Trudeau, Canada accepted an average of 25000 refugees. The last 4 year average is 131,000 - 5.25x more than the pre liberal regime average.

The good news is it’s declining as the rules are tightening. The bad news is acceptance terms are softer now and abuse of the system has become enormous.
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