Cameras cameras everywhere...

Like most of douggies ideas, this is half-baked at best. Douggie wanted to repurpose speed cameras to monitor entrances to neighbourhoods. Most municipalities don't own the cameras. The company that owns the cameras currently gets ~30% of ticket revenue to pay for the cameras and their service. If the tickets drop to zero, the cameras do not remain in Ontario, they get redeployed to a jurisdiction where they can generate money.
I’d go for sharing my cameras.

If I were in charge I’d give out free cameras to citizens providing they agree to host a camera on their property.
 
I’d go for sharing my cameras.

If I were in charge I’d give out free cameras to citizens providing they agree to host a camera on their property.
I thought about that but decided it was a bad idea. My cameras are set to capture very little off property. In the chance they catch something, I don't mind checking and passing footage to the cops but they don't get access.

For municipal supplied cameras, unless they become really popular, They make your house a target as they will all be the same make/model and would be easy for bad guys to pick out if they wanted to operate in an area. The dirtbags in barrie are all wearing masks and hoodies so identifying them even if you have a great camera and shot is well framed is difficult.

If the cops had unfettered access to a camera that can see your property, that's not ideal. Fire up a two-stroke and they can use that evidence to ding you for a bylaw or epa infraction if they're bored and your neighbour is a Karen. Don't self-snitch.
 
Didn’t the province have speed cameras on the 400 series highways years ago?

Everyone would slam their brakes when they saw a van parked by the side of the road.

First generation of speed cameras in Ontario were in vans. I saw them on smaller highways but not expressways (maybe they were there too but I didn't see them). They were also killed as they were pretending they were safety but used them for revenue.

Use to see one on the 404 southbound a lot when I lived in Stouffville. The panic braking :poop: show they caused at highway speeds was stupifying. And the big push to get rid of them was invasion of privacy issues. Uncle Mike took care of that once the province realized putting a rainbows and unicorns faux liberal Marxists in power wasn't such a good idea after all.

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The contracts are between municipalities and providers. Not douggies bill.

IIRC Brampton built a processing centre and is a service provider to other municipalities. That's part of the reason Brown is pushing so hard. He gets all the money from Brampton cameras and cut of other municipalities too.

These crime cameras will be a fail. Either the bad guys shoot them on the way in or more likely they are in stolen cars/plates anyway so almost no useful information will be obtained. Sure, it may help the cops know they are looking for a black BMW sooner but barring a miracle, that doesn't help find the perpetrators.
I haven't researched the surveillance cameras in the UK but get the impression they are part of a massive complex. Most are private and estimates range in the millions. The country seems to be evenly split between pro and con with privacy acceptance.

There's lots of info on Wikipedia.

Not for the first time, Douggie hasn't done his research. Crime cameras will have different technology. They will require extensive monitoring by humans or AI. Slow response times hobble the benefits.

Crime cameras will have to be government funded because unlike traffic tickets they don't generate income. It costs serious coin to investigate crime and follow through with trials and incarceration. Traffic cams make money.

Private cameras can be valuable but as others have expressed, I wouldn't want to turn over my entire collection of videos just in case I had made a tiny slipup somewhere or I exposed myself to a lawsuit.

Many years ago, on a very hot day we were returning home from shopping and we passed a house where a little girl maybe 4 years old, was riding her bicycle through their lawn sprinkler. Being safety conscious, she was wearing her helmet but had removed all her clothes and neatly placed them on their verandah. The innocence of a child can be so hilarious and as we laughed my wife said she wished she had a camera.

If that had happened more recently it would have been picked up on my dashcam and possibly interpreted as child porn.

The next step in traffic cams is insurance premium increases. The insurer doesn't know who was driving but they will know that you allow bad drivers to use your car, increasing risks. The technology is there.
 
Well the dumba$$'s managed to get this pushed through pretty quick.

Already working on removing them as well

So strange the gov refusing to take more of our money. I think the comment of Ford and his cronies getting ticketed is the real reason behind this, sold as a tax grab(partly is), and playing up the negative feelings about the program. Lets face it they want their cake and eat it too.

Should be fun times on the streets, I bet within a few weeks we'll see some stupid level accidents or stats saying this all the fault of removing them.

Dumb all around. No wonder elbows up and all that nonsense doesn't work when you have goldfish as leadership.
 
Ford and his buddies getting ticketed is the issue? Yeah...I don't think they are sweating over $500+/- tickets.

I've been associating with some high rollers in the car scene, they get tickets and don't even bother to read them. Thrown in the passenger seat and call the lawyer to deal with it at lunch. Forgotten by the time lunch is over.
 
I would hope they keep the cameras in the needed areas like school zones but have them timed to be only active during school hours
 
From my experience with camera'd environments... They do little to prevent anything.
They just witness and record what happened.
The bad stuff still happened.
On the small chance they do affect the bad stuff, the effect is moving over slightly to avoid the camera. Rarely is the bad behaviour actually stopped.
 
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Krazy Aunt Kathy's Liberal government reinstated the speed cameras (ne: photo radar) and they were only supposed to be installed in school zones and be active during school hours. The municipalities realized what a cash cow they were and started running them 24/7/365 then also installed them in sucker punch locations like bottom of hills and right at the signs of reduced speed zone and multiple drop reduced speed zones. They got cocky, flew too close to the Sun, and drew the ire of the majority of the population and most importantly, the higher authority (Prov. Gov.) who likes to curry favour by throwing the masses the odd bone. Serves 'en right. They became nothing but a questionably legal (ticketing vehicles) cash grab.
 
From my experience i see people speeding up to get through the yellow. plus in some cases the timing of the yellows aren't consistent from light to light

I see it as just another tax grab like the speed cameras.
 
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Found this on google AI

No, yellow lights are not timed the same for every intersection, including those with red light cameras. The duration of a yellow light is calculated based on factors like the speed limit and intersection size, and is designed to give drivers time to either stop safely or clear the intersection before the light turns red.
 
Red light cameras seem to prevent idiots from turning left on the red, holding up traffic on the opposite direction when it's green.
or that guy who trails a slow moving tractor trail making the left.
 
Red light cameras seem to prevent idiots from turning left on the red, holding up traffic on the opposite direction when it's green.
or that guy who trails a slow moving tractor trail making the left.
Or like mentioned, roundabouts. thing with red light cameras they are not in busy intersections, or not in my area although they have three or four with in 5k from my house
 
Cameras (red light or speed) only penalize the law breakers. I'm good with them.
There's no "cash cow" if people obey the laws. Lots of whinning over nothing.
 
Cameras (red light or speed) only penalize the law breakers. I'm good with them.
There's no "cash cow" if people obey the laws. Lots of whinning over nothing.
When the politicians drop the speed limit 30% or more below the design speed and install cameras, you are technically breaking the law but it is purely a money game. Roads shpuld stay at their design speed as that is the speed people naturally drive. If politicians want vehicles to slow down, change the road design and it happens with almost 100% effectiveness. They don't want vehicles to slow down, they want more money to waste.
 
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