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Hit or Flop? Ford Maverick

I like it, kind of like a ute/pickup hybrid. Might buy one as my next work truck, need a cab over the bed tho, wonder how long before they are availiable
I expect quickly. This will be popular. People think they want trucks and then realize all of their stuff gets wet and dirty.
 
Lol, is Chevy going to respond with this?


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Omg, that's a really ugly subaru Baja rip off lmao
 
The Ford Maverick peaked around 1970....


IMO pick-up trucks have become gigantic for no good reason other than the other brands kept biggie sizing them, vicious marketing circle. I really welcome the idea of a useful pickup that is not big just to be big.
Partly unintended consequence of stupid emissions regs (plan area). Height is likely a combination of large plan area, preferred high seating position and looking tough.
 
Hyundai Santa Cruz for me
Ford reliability is no good
Father in law bought a new hyundai sonata 8 years ago. At exactly the 5yr mark EVERYTHING started falling apart and not working. Was a great car and value for money when he bought it but the long term reliability left much to be desired.
 
Father in law bought a new hyundai sonata 8 years ago. At exactly the 5yr mark EVERYTHING started falling apart and not working. Was a great car and value for money when he bought it but the long term reliability left much to be desired.

The turbo motors can be fishy too

But go look at some of the recalls for the 2021 f150. YiKES
 
Lol, is Chevy going to respond with this?




How do you know all this!?
This feels like insider info lol

Edit - this doesnt use their 2.3 litre turbo 4?
First time seeing this 2.5 hybrid version
Might be a cheap long term truck if it has held up over time.

I work in the industry on the tooling / automation side, for suppliers (which means I end up finding out a little bit about everything). A good customer of mine is building major components for Ranger/Bronco.

The 2.5 non-turbo 4 cylinder is the same engine used in the current Escape hybrid. It's the exact same powertrain. That version of that engine is set up for efficiency rather than power ... the hybrid system provides extra acceleration when needed. It's more efficient than the 2.3 Ecoboost (Ranger).

Ford's hybrid system is extremely similar to Toyota's, and Ford has been using them for a while. My only experience with it was in a Ford Fusion Hybrid rental car, and I thought it was pretty good.

As for the Chevrolet Montana (sorry, tried to multi-quote, can't figure out where I went wrong) ... Quite a few of these car-based small trucks are already in production for Mexico and South America. The Chevy is rather ugly, but I rather like the Ram 700 a.k.a. Fiat Strada ... The Ram 700 Is a Cool Mexican-Market Compact Pickup That's Smaller Than the Original Dakota
 
I think its a home run.
I may trade my F150 for this, it is what a midsize should be.
It's significantly smaller than a full-size, much better fuel economy and somehow cheaper than a honda civic.
Smaller bed is the trade-off but has provisions for carrying full sheets of drywall/plywood. from experience, a motorcycle will fit.
real world fuel economy will be way better than the current mid-sizers, ex: ranger, GM twins
will ride much nicer due to unibody and independent suspension.

only questions marks for me is the fuel economy of the ecoboost+AWD and reliability.
I’m with you.

Around 2010 I vowed to make my car decision based on what I use the vehicle for 95% of the time. Before that it was based on what I needed 5% of the time. For me that men’s I’ll never again have any Jag, Denali XL, or anything with a hemi.

I thought it might be embarrassing to pull up in a $20k Chevy Cruze when my buddies were all driving $100k cars. Turns out it’s not that bad! In fact a couple have followed my lead.

Back to Maverick. Nice truck, name doesn’t scream quality if you’re old enough to have driven or owned an original. If the e150 doesn’t come thru, I like this as an option that meets my 95 rule.
 
I work in the industry on the tooling / automation side, for suppliers (which means I end up finding out a little bit about everything). A good customer of mine is building major components for Ranger/Bronco.

The 2.5 non-turbo 4 cylinder is the same engine used in the current Escape hybrid. It's the exact same powertrain. That version of that engine is set up for efficiency rather than power ... the hybrid system provides extra acceleration when needed. It's more efficient than the 2.3 Ecoboost (Ranger).

Ford's hybrid system is extremely similar to Toyota's, and Ford has been using them for a while. My only experience with it was in a Ford Fusion Hybrid rental car, and I thought it was pretty good.

As for the Chevrolet Montana (sorry, tried to multi-quote, can't figure out where I went wrong) ... Quite a few of these car-based small trucks are already in production for Mexico and South America. The Chevy is rather ugly, but I rather like the Ram 700 a.k.a. Fiat Strada ... The Ram 700 Is a Cool Mexican-Market Compact Pickup That's Smaller Than the Original Dakota
Me too, we get insight as we make stuff that fixtures dunnage carts that feed the lines. I’m currently most excited with GM and Jeep.

As for Fiat stuff, since WWII they have led the world in automotive depreciation - nothing suggest a shift from style to quality, for this market (winter, big miles) a Fiat will remain a Fiat.
 
The Holden Ute was a great vehicle. The last generation (pictured above) looked really good in 2-door form. There was an extended-cab 4-door version, but the proportions are really strange.

Key word, "was". With GM and Ford exiting vehicle manufacturing in Australia, the Australian utes are done. They buy pickup trucks now - although generally what we would consider mid-size. Our full-size models aren't sold there. Rangers are common, but theirs would be coming from the assembly plant in Thailand.
 
How do you know all this!?
This feels like insider info lol

Edit - this doesnt use their 2.3 litre turbo 4?
First time seeing this 2.5 hybrid version
Might be a cheap long term truck if it has held up over time.
already release videos on youtube right now...you can read all about it.
 
As for Fiat stuff, since WWII they have led the world in automotive depreciation - nothing suggest a shift from style to quality, for this market (winter, big miles) a Fiat will remain a Fiat.

European mass-market brands all got a bad reputation here ... even VW, which is well-regarded in Europe. Just imagine what would happen if Citroen or Renault were to attempt to sell something under those brand names here. The Fiat brand name isn't likely to survive much longer in North America - but they're huge in South America.

YES, the last time a Citroen or Renault was sold under their own name in North America, was before the auto industry in general had figured out corrosion protection. Japanese cars back then (1980s) rusted just as badly, but somehow they got away with it.

European roads are filled with Renaults, Citroens, Fiats, VWs and all their cousins (Seat, Skoda) as well as European Ford and GM (Opel, Vauxhall), and they seem to do okay with them ... and Honda (well-regarded here) have a hard time surviving in Europe! Seems that Australians don't buy Honda cars, either. Honda are considered to be pensioners' cars in the UK.

Modern manufacturing processes have converged in many ways. Everyone builds stuff in more-or-less the same ways using similar materials nowadays, with parts and subassemblies bought in from the same core groups of suppliers for each type of product. Buy whatever suits your needs.
 

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