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Chauvin going to jail?

My take. There are two general types of crime, emotional and financial with some cross over.

People under emotional stress don't usually think things out. You made a pass at my girlfriend. Punch stab or shoot etc. Extremely high chance of getting caught. So what. Getting away with it isn't a big part of the calculation.

Financial crime is a business with more calculating and thinking. If I embezzle two million dollars and there's 50 / 50 chance of getting caught and if convicted will be three years in jail and if I can hide the money I can buy a starter home in Toronto when I get out. Lots of planning to improve the odds.

Read up on psychopaths. One psychologist put it, a psychopath is born. A sociopath is made.


Then do we execute psychopaths by default? Lol

I know about the psychopath vs sociopath thing. Most leaders have strong traits from either or <.<
 
I choose not to believe that anyone is inherently evil or good. I think people can be stupid (as in low IQ and learning slowly), but morality is a human construct while pragmatism seems to be the default (observe other mammalian behavior); also I googled Dellan Millard and the dude's got some pretty bad red flags like "Smich had a police record involving petty offences such as drug possession, driving impaired, mischief, failure to appear, and breach of conditions." I dunno about you, but that screams "I CAN'T LEARN FROM MY MISTAKES AND I AM GOD!" to me lol

And yes, I am comparing speeding with murder because the mindset of both offenders is the same: "I can get away with it." The vast majority do not do something with the possibility of seriously deterring consequences unless they believe they can get away. I'd be willing to bet the neurological pathway is similar with any decision involving "break the rules."
Dellan Millard and his buddy with the prior petty offences, Mark Smich, murdered and incinerated two people, joked about it, made rap lyrics about it and never once showed any remorse to even the families in court. They are inherently evil. To top it off Millard also murdered his father as he slept.

The two of them should receive capital punishment.
 
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Dellan Millard and his buddy with the prior petty offences, Mark Smich, murdered and incinerated two people, joked about it, made rap lyrics about it and never once showed any remorse to even the families in court. They are inherently evil. To top it off Millard also murdered his father as he slept.

The two of them should be receive capital punishment.

Add Bernardo to the list. I'm not in favour of capital punishment but would not want to see resources wasted on any of them.

I wonder if lifers ever get used to the monotony. Would it be cruel to send them postcards of nice places they could be vacationing if they hadn't been inhuman?
 
Add Bernardo to the list. I'm not in favour of capital punishment but would not want to see resources wasted on any of them.

I wonder if lifers ever get used to the monotony. Would it be cruel to send them postcards of nice places they could be vacationing if they hadn't been inhuman?
I bet they all got the vaccine before most of the rest of Canada
 
Add Bernardo to the list. I'm not in favour of capital punishment but would not want to see resources wasted on any of them.

I wonder if lifers ever get used to the monotony. Would it be cruel to send them postcards of nice places they could be vacationing if they hadn't been inhuman?
Bunch more Id add to the list, Homolka, Terri-Lynne McClintic, Michael Rafferty etc

You know the system is screwed up when anybody can claim they are indigenous and then be given access to healing lodges like Terri McClintic.
Abducted and beat an 8 year old child to death using a claw hammer and is able to get special treatment by pretending to be indigenous.
 
My place in mount forest is five minute drive from the spot they found the young girl terry-Lynn McClintock and they guy that murder her.

For along time i would drive another route to get to town as it bother me that much.

Having a daughter the same age i just could not imagine what the families had to go through
 



Admitting that jury intimidation played a major part in the trial, Christensen said that “I didn’t want to go through the rioting.”
 
Admitting that jury intimidation played a major part in the trial, Christensen said that “I didn’t want to go through the rioting.”

An alternate juror? Was she eating popcorn while she gave the interview?
 
An alternate juror? Was she eating popcorn while she gave the interview?

Alternate jurors were not designated until they were sent to deliberate. They had 4 extra jurors and no one knew who was to be classified as an alternate until the last moment before deliberating.

It is done so that "alternates" don't sit eating popcorn and that all jurors are engaged in process.
 



Admitting that jury intimidation played a major part in the trial, Christensen said that “I didn’t want to go through the rioting.”
That question was asked during jury selection. We know of one person who had no part of the verdict that felt that way. The news is spinning it as if it was what led to the decision to convict.
 



Admitting that jury intimidation played a major part in the trial, Christensen said that “I didn’t want to go through the rioting.”
lawofficer.com is a pretty biased site. Consider this from their site:

If this was all about “racism” then what about the fact that since George Floyd died…

375 “white” Americans have been killed by police—24 of them were described as unarmed

193 “black” Americans have been killed by police—11 of them were described as unarmed

I don’t know about you, but I’m having a hard time finding the so-called “systematic police racism” in the facts and truth of the matter here.


Doesn't bother to mention about 75% of americans are white while only about 14% are black.


If that's how they pick and choose their facts I don't need any more links thanks.
 
lawofficer.com is a pretty biased site. Consider this from their site:

If this was all about “racism” then what about the fact that since George Floyd died…

375 “white” Americans have been killed by police—24 of them were described as unarmed

193 “black” Americans have been killed by police—11 of them were described as unarmed

I don’t know about you, but I’m having a hard time finding the so-called “systematic police racism” in the facts and truth of the matter here.


Doesn't bother to mention about 75% of americans are white while only about 14% are black.

If that's how they pick and choose their facts I don't need any more links thanks.

I posted the Washington examiner link with the same info as I knew someone would say what you said ...
ok if you like facts and pointing out only 14 percent of America is black then you should take a look at these facts .
Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.


 
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I posted the Washington examiner link with the same info as I knew someone would say what you said ...
ok if you like facts and pointing out only 14 percent of America is black then you should take a look at these facts .
Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.


From your quoted source:

All sociologists have suffered from the same basic problem: finding urban white communities that are as disadvantaged as the poorest black neighbourhoods, so that you can get a fair comparison.


Think being held back for 400 years has ****** them off a bit? Shhhsh let's not bring that up eh?
 
Bunch more Id add to the list, Homolka, Terri-Lynne McClintic, Michael Rafferty etc

You know the system is screwed up when anybody can claim they are indigenous and then be given access to healing lodges like Terri McClintic.
Abducted and beat an 8 year old child to death using a claw hammer and is able to get special treatment by pretending to be indigenous.
Don't forget Magnotta.
 
From your quoted source:

All sociologists have suffered from the same basic problem: finding urban white communities that are as disadvantaged as the poorest black neighbourhoods, so that you can get a fair comparison.

Think being held back for 400 years has ****** them off a bit? Shhhsh let's not bring that up eh?

so free pass to murder each other.....shhhh let’s not bring that up. if that was the case then the Jews should be committing the most crimes as they have been persecuted , attacked , enslaved and murdered for thousands of years.
 
lawofficer.com is a pretty biased site. Consider this from their site:

If this was all about “racism” then what about the fact that since George Floyd died…

375 “white” Americans have been killed by police—24 of them were described as unarmed

193 “black” Americans have been killed by police—11 of them were described as unarmed

I don’t know about you, but I’m having a hard time finding the so-called “systematic police racism” in the facts and truth of the matter here.


Doesn't bother to mention about 75% of americans are white while only about 14% are black.

If that's how they pick and choose their facts I don't need any more links thanks.
Unless a person has studied the way slavery worked it is hard to understand the centuries old legacies that modified Afro-American culture.

Imagine a white couple being told that one spouse was being sold and the marriage annulled. The seller dictated where the children went. At a given age they could be sold as well.

Imagine being mated to produce a labour force tuned to the task.

Imagine your children being sold.

Imagine being forbidden to learn to read or write, therefore being unable to record your family tree or fight unfair laws.

I can trace my ancestry back to the early 1700's Scotland. A descendant of a slave might be able to go back a bit but the early records are of their parents being items on a bill of sale or auction site.

It would be interesting to compare the attitudes of slave descendants to those of recent immigrants from Africa.

Italians were discriminated against here in the 1950s but they knew that back in Italy they were respected trades people, chefs, businessmen etc. They rode out the bad times and have prospered. Slavery destroyed the history and culture the blacks would have had in Africa.

How does one unscramble that egg?
 
Unless a person has studied the way slavery worked it is hard to understand the centuries old legacies that modified Afro-American culture.

Imagine a white couple being told that one spouse was being sold and the marriage annulled. The seller dictated where the children went. At a given age they could be sold as well.

Imagine being mated to produce a labour force tuned to the task.

Imagine your children being sold.

Imagine being forbidden to learn to read or write, therefore being unable to record your family tree or fight unfair laws.

I can trace my ancestry back to the early 1700's Scotland. A descendant of a slave might be able to go back a bit but the early records are of their parents being items on a bill of sale or auction site.

It would be interesting to compare the attitudes of slave descendants to those of recent immigrants from Africa.

Italians were discriminated against here in the 1950s but they knew that back in Italy they were respected trades people, chefs, businessmen etc. They rode out the bad times and have prospered. Slavery destroyed the history and culture the blacks would have had in Africa.

How does one unscramble that egg?

how do you explain the Jews not going down the same negative path then?
enslaved , persecuted , exterminated for thousands of years .
And how do you explain how violent , backwards and poor black run African countries are? Those people were not sent over to America to be enslaved in fact those peoples ancestors captured and sold the people who were sent over to America.
The slavery argument is a poor excuse for what is happening today,
 
Unless a person has studied the way slavery worked it is hard to understand the centuries old legacies that modified Afro-American culture.

Imagine a white couple being told that one spouse was being sold and the marriage annulled. The seller dictated where the children went. At a given age they could be sold as well.

Imagine being mated to produce a labour force tuned to the task.

Imagine your children being sold.

Imagine being forbidden to learn to read or write, therefore being unable to record your family tree or fight unfair laws.

I can trace my ancestry back to the early 1700's Scotland. A descendant of a slave might be able to go back a bit but the early records are of their parents being items on a bill of sale or auction site.

It would be interesting to compare the attitudes of slave descendants to those of recent immigrants from Africa.

Italians were discriminated against here in the 1950s but they knew that back in Italy they were respected trades people, chefs, businessmen etc. They rode out the bad times and have prospered. Slavery destroyed the history and culture the blacks would have had in Africa.

How does one unscramble that egg?
You can play the imagine game with virtually any civilization or race that has ever walked the earth. For much of human history life was terrible.
Afro-Americans are not the only group of people that have endured hardship.

Tracing ones ancestry has what affect on their behaviour in the modern world?

Recent immigrants from Africa are rich and largely very educated. The .1% group.

Italians were discriminated here, the Irish, Chinese, Vietnamese etc etc were discriminated in the US. All were able to prosper. Viet's came to the US on boats with $1 in their pockets. Italians came here in the 50s and 60s with $100.

Anywhere you find different groups of people you are going to find discrimination and racism to some degree. There is less of it in the west.
If you are a "minority" in a country outside of the west you better have power through wealth..
 
how do you explain the Jews not going down the same negative path then?
enslaved , persecuted , exterminated for thousands of years .
And how do you explain how violent , backwards and poor black run African countries are? Those people were not sent over to America to be enslaved in fact those peoples ancestors captured and sold the people who were sent over to America.
The slavery argument is a poor excuse for what is happening today,
Cultures are different.

Jews had arguably the worst history yet always prosper. They instill the idea of responsibility at a young age. Place emphasis on knowledge, education and community.
 

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