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B.C. man who shot robber wants more gun rights

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I have to agree with him. People have the right to defend their homes. Too many home invasions and the streets of Toronto are awash with criminals carrying smuggled handguns.


A jeweller from Port Alberni, B.C., who shot an armed robber five times is taking a public stand for stronger rights to bear arms in Canada.
"The police can't control the crime anymore," Dennis Galloway said. "The government isn't controlling it anymore. We are relying on the politicians and the RCMP to take care of us — and we should all be responsible for our own safety and security."
Galloway was speaking out after staying silent for months about how he opened fire one afternoon last fall on the masked robber and accomplice trying to rob his store.
"I had my eye on them before they even opened the door," Galloway said in an interview. "And I could see gloves on their hands and sunglasses and hats. They took one, two steps in the door — and boom — out comes their gun.
"I turned, went into my safe, got my firearm out of storage and loaded it."
Galloway has been a target shooter for a decade. He said he keeps several legally registered guns in the vault in Dievert's Jewellers, the store he owns with his wife, Sharon. They were alone in the store when the alleged robbers arrived in the late afternoon of Oct. 22, 2008.
Surveillance video shows that while Galloway quickly slipped into his open vault to get his weapon, one of the masked men pointed a large handgun at Sharon's head. The man was moving toward the vault area when the jeweller came out and began firing his 9-mm Beretta handgun.
'No time to contemplate'
"I see the guy moving towards me with a gun and starting to lift the gun up and I started to see the smashing — like he was hitting the [jewelry] case with the gun," he said.
"Do I just roll over and let them do whatever they want? Possibly kill us? There was no time to contemplate on what was morally right and wrong. It happened so fast. Once I started shooting, he turned and he ran."

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Surveillance video from Dievert's Jewellers shows a masked man pointing a gun at Sharon Galloway's face. ((CBC))
Galloway said he kept firing until the magazine in his gun was empty. Surveillance video shows accused robber James Gumbleton collapsed in the store entranceway. His alleged accomplice got away. Gumbleton had been shot five times in the shoulder and torso.
"He hit the floor," Galloway said. "I went back into the safe, reloaded my firearm. I was still kind of worried. I didn't want him to escape or turn around and shoot me."
Photographs from the scene show bullets also went through the glass in the storefront. Galloway trained his gun on Gumbleton, while his wife called 911.
Gumbleton, who did not fire his gun, was taken to hospital, where he spent several months in a coma. The 46-year old from Burnaby with a record of drug-related convictions is now paralyzed from the chest down. The RCMP are proceeding with robbery charges, now that he is well enough to attend court.

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Accused robber James Gumbleton is paralyzed from the chest down after being shot five times. ((Courtesy Alberni Valley News))

RCMP recommended Galloway be charged as well — with unsafe storage and careless use of a firearm. The Crown disagreed.
Canadian law says guns must be registered and stored, unloaded and safely. Citizens are allowed to fire their guns in self-defence but only with as much force as necessary.
"It's difficult that I did this to another human being," Galloway said. "I don't take any pride in it. It's an unfortunate incident for everyone."
"I wish it had never come to this. The violence is escalating. In Canada, we don't want that, but it's here. And that's scary. What do you do? Do you just lie down and let the criminals run the country?"
Staff Sgt. Lee Omilusik told CBC News he doesn't think Galloway should have opened fire the way he did.
"[The accused robber] was leaving the building, and he got shot," Omilusik said. "Is that 'as much force as is necessary?'
"It's like a bank robbery. Give them the money. Give them what they are after. If you give them what they are after, nine times out of 10 they will take what they are after and they will leave."
Shopkeeper honoured
Last month, Galloway was given a bravery award by the Canadian Association for Self Defence, a group started two years ago by Quebec resident Norman Lapierre. It boasts 2,500 members, including police officers and lawyers. Its mandate is to lobby for the legal right to carry concealed, loaded handguns, as long as the owners get proper training.
When a robbery happens, Galloway said, there usually isn't time to retrieve a gun from storage and load it, as the law now requires.

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RCMP Staff Sgt. Lee Omilusik does not condone Galloway taking the law into his own hands. ((CBC))
"Canadians are defenceless. And it's the law."
Omilusik said this is a dangerous sentiment, which he does not support.
"In this case, we had several shots fired," he said. "They went through a window. Who's to say a child might not have been walking through that window? You are going to get a lot of innocent people shot if you have everybody armed."
Port Alberni schoolteacher Ellen Chambers was across the street when Galloway fired the shots. She just as easily could have been in the line of fire.
Bullet holes through front door
"I am terrified," Chambers said. "We can see clearly evidence that there are bullet holes through the front door and public safety was jeopardized. Potentially, my public safety."
Chambers said she wanted to speak out because, so far, most public sentiment in Port Alberni has supported Galloway's actions. Chambers thinks he should be charged.

Schoolteacher Ellen Chambers was across the street when the shooting happened and believes Galloway should be facing charges. ((CBC))
"It shouldn't be decided in the court of public opinion, this whole thing," she said. "He still has a gun. My opinion is that's unsafe for him to still have that gun."
She agrees with Galloway on one point, however: the RCMP and the justice system in Canada are ineffective.
"Our law enforcement services are incompetent," she said.
Galloway's sentiments about the system stem partly from a robbery at his store last spring. A man walked in, asked to see a $10,000 ring, then ran out with it. When the RCMP didn't appear interested in pursuing it, Galloway posted the surveillance video on the internet.
"It pretty much went nowhere," Galloway said. "He just got away with it. Nothing was being done and I felt helpless."
The man shown on the tape was eventually caught, but not until after he had committed other robberies, Galloway said. The ring was never recovered, though, and Galloway's insurance did not cover the loss. Galloway said the RCMP have also still not caught the accomplice from the latest robbery, more than a year later.
Asked to respond to the suggestion police aren't doing enough to protect people, Omilusik responded: "We have to do things properly — and that takes time. It's not like a CSI movie, where you see five minutes later the guy is arrested and he's doing time.
"We have to work under the system that is in existence and the laws that are in existence. If you are not happy with the court system, protest to your politicians. Don't take the law into your own hands."

The Canadian Association of Self Defence presented a bravery award to Dennis Galloway in November. ((CBC))
Galloway and Chambers believe illegal drugs are at the root of the crime problem in their community. Before his recent arrest, accused robber Gumbleton told the Alberni Valley News he was hooked on cocaine at the time and was ordered to do the robbery by his drug dealer.
Galloway said the RCMP should be going after the dealer.
"I feel for other jewellers, other businesses, that there's organized drug gangs, sending people out — these drug-addicted people — with guns into stores, businesses, houses. And they are being ordered to commit this crime."
Omilusik said the force is working on the problem.
"And time is on our side. Our conviction rate is going up and our crime rates are going down."
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If you're a cop and you shoot a man who's running away in the back you're charged with murder. The easiest path to American levels of gun violence is to arm undisciplined people to the same level. No thanks.
 
Article is over 9 years old... Still feeling pretty safe without a gun
 
"We can see clearly evidence that there are bullet holes through the front door"

From the article. Where did those rounds end up?

Streets awash with criminals carrying smuggled handguns???? The sky is falling. Joint the NRA!!!

How many of those guns were stolen from collectors, not smuggled in?
 
If you're a cop and you shoot a man who's running away in the back you're charged with murder. The easiest path to American levels of gun violence is to arm undisciplined people to the same level. No thanks.


The most gun violence in America is between criminals or people involved in crime . You barely hear any problems from law abiding CCW carrying public .

I`m not afraid of my neighbor with CCW . As he/she has lots to lose if they kill an innocent person . Not the criminals .
 
If you're a cop and you shoot a man who's running away in the back you're charged with murder..

'Depends...
'Many circumstances where it's justifiable to shoot a mofo when he's running away from you.
 
The most gun violence in America is between criminals or people involved in crime . You barely hear any problems from law abiding CCW carrying public .

I`m not afraid of my neighbor with CCW . As he/she has lots to lose if they kill an innocent person . Not the criminals .

Quite a few of the mass shooters were law abiding ccw people moments before they decided to go nuts. Think about that for a second.
 
Quite a few of the mass shooters were law abiding ccw people moments before they decided to go nuts. Think about that for a second.


And many law abiding riders were so until they weren't...
If you want to live in a world were we enact laws that restrict people based on "what ifs", well... F-that.
 
Quite a few of the mass shooters were law abiding ccw people moments before they decided to go nuts. Think about that for a second.


More and more states are allowing CCW . It`s not because CCW people are the problem .
 
And many law abiding riders were so until they weren't...
If you want to live in a world were we enact laws that restrict people based on "what ifs", well... F-that.

That’s what happens in countries with lower gun crime stats. Oddly it works. Can’t argue with hard evidence unfortunately, no matter how much you try or how much you’d rather those facts not be true.
 
Wasn't the Danforth shooter armed with a gun stolen from a gun shop out west?

Umm, no. It was smuggled from the U.S. then stolen in a break and enter in Saskatoon:


According to a source who spoke to CP24, the gun used in the attack originated in the United States and investigators are working with officials in the U.S. to determine how the weapon ended up in Canada.

Investigators believe the weapon used in the shooting was obtained illegally from a “gang-related” source in the city and that the gunman did not have a licence to possess the gun used in the attack, sources also told CP24.

 
That’s what happens in countries with lower gun crime stats. Oddly it works. Can’t argue with hard evidence unfortunately, no matter how much you try or how much you’d rather those facts not be true.

I think you missed my point...
I don't think I should have to wear a diaper because someone else might **** their pants...
As far as stats go... they're irrelevant.
For every stat quoted on one side if the argument there's another to counter.
There are countless "stats" that show gun control in and of itself doesn't stop gun violence. Look at a place like Chicago.
'Strictest gun control in the country... gun murder capitol of the universe.
State of Vermont... zero gun control legislation.... Next to no gun crime.
 
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Unfortunately to get gun controls removed one has to push the "Streets awash with guns" rhetoric. It scares people into thinking that more guns will solve the problem. Fear overrides reality. Get everyone jumpy and thinking that guns are the solution and social solutions are abandoned.

The old adage "If the only tool you have is a hammer you see every problem as a nail." If you're not sure then shoot it.

Instead of spending time and money on weaponry I invested in a safe neighbourhood, good locks and insurance. I avoid places where I would need a gun.
 
Quite a few of the mass shooters were law abiding ccw people moments before they decided to go nuts. Think about that for a second.
do you have actual numbers that back that up?
 
Really? Anywhere outside the US?

It works there and is expanding to more states every year . It must be working if people want it . I`m sure other countries have CCW and low incident with people that posses them .
 
10 year old story

jeweler shot the guy 5 times
robber is in a wheelchair and facing criminal charges

shop owner did not face charges
what more rights does he need ???
 

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