Motul 7100 vs 300V?

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bailliab said:
If you were to ride the ex500 on the street instead of the track, what motor oil would you recommend. Just your opinion I know but Dino or synthetic? 10w, 15w?

Thanks
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I would recommend you use the oil recommended in the manual: SAE 10/40 SG or 10/40 JASO-MA.
The only reason I would use synth oil is to extend oil change interval.
 
Kri$han said:
The main benefit of using high $$ synthetics is that they *last longer*, so why not use them accordingly?
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People change oil too frequently, because:
1. It's easy to do
2. It's cheap (or should be)
3. Oil marketing
4. Internet forums that run on pure bullsh-t.

Oil -related failure is really rare, even on a sports bike.

Same problem in cars. My dealer says i must change my oil every 5000kms, the mnaual, and the car computer, says every 15,000 kms.
 
bailliab said:
If you were to ride the ex500 on the street instead of the track, what motor oil would you recommend. Just your opinion I know but Dino or synthetic? 10w, 15w?

Thanks
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Your manual was written by professional engineers in Japan who designed and developed the engine. Use what the manual says.
 
300V is not recommended for idling, it requires high oil pressure to lubricate properly, ie/track
 
GRAYZ said:
......Ok, since I have to ask, how about an actual link, paper, quote, etc? Or are you deliberately trying to obfuscate the discussion?
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Someone I know contacted motul to ask this very question when 7100 came out and that's what they said. I have nothing to prove to you, nor do I care to, call them and ask if you don't believe me.
 
DownUnder said:
The guy works for an oil analysis company and tested a bunch of oils after a few thousand kms of use.
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I used to do that as well. That's why these oil threads are hysterical to me. Nobody knows anything but they all stand firm to the belief that what they have decided is the gospel. Almost as bad as religion.

My advice is to buy the most expensive oil possible. For sure a quadruple synthetic hyperblended dylithium platinum filtered magnetic super racing oil.
 
RedDogDarren said:
I used to do that as well. That's why these oil threads are hysterical to me. Nobody knows anything but they all stand firm to the belief that what they have decided is the gospel...
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So with all that insider information, I'd be interested to know how you came to your decision on what oil to use?

Seriously though I agree with your statement, so why not challenge it. If the idea that 300V doesn't last long enough for an oil change interval on a streetbike, where's the proof?

I found this thread, and thought it was interesting. In this analysis 300V held up impressively over 5000kms in a VStrom and maintained the same viscosity as new.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3340155/1

So then draw the line between the VStrom and built superbike. Pretty much anything you own will be well protected with 300V. if you want to save a few pennies, use the 7100.
 
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Sounds like a lot of people used to work for an oil analysis company .. every forum has a few ... LOL

Anyways, getting ready to rebuilt all my engine running 300V, they will be toast for sure.
 
RedDogDarren said:
I used to do that as well. That's why these oil threads are hysterical to me. Nobody knows anything but they all stand firm to the belief that what they have decided is the gospel. Almost as bad as religion....
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When I hear"I've been using super duper oil X and no problems so far"
Uhhmmmmm Have you torn the motor down for an inspection of the bearing surfaces?
No? So what you're telling us is to date your motor hasn't desolved into a puddle under your bike. Thanks for the recommendation.
It is worse than religion, it's ADVERTIZING! Oh same thing I guess, all lies and pleading for your money.
 
I wouldn't be trusting Bob the oil guy for advice.
I also wouldn't be running a "race" oil in a street motor.
I didn't stay at the Holiday Inn last night, but I do buy oil analysis in blocks of 24.
 
More important question: Where is the best place to buy some Motul oil and an oil filter in Toronto? Any recommendations near Yonge and Yorkmills?
 
Having used both 300V and 7100 in my Monster. I prefer 7100 primarily because I feel I can go longer between oils changes and it is cheaper to boot.
 
bitzz said:
I wouldn't be trusting Bob the oil guy for advice.
I also wouldn't be running a "race" oil in a street motor.
I didn't stay at the Holiday Inn last night, but I do buy oil analysis in blocks of 24.
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Well, many people out there are just tired of unqualified opinions without any verifiable proof. Posting your oil analysis is probably the closest thing to objective evidence out there, although they can also be influenced by differences in usage, as well as sample contamination.

As far as that goes, I have yet to find any evidence that suggests 300V is not appropriate for a street bike. I would be very interested to read it if it does exist. Btw, my street bike runs 5100, so I don't have any ego involved in this discussion. People will run whatever oil they feel comfortable with, based on whatever information they have gathered, and that's totally their prerogative.
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