inline or v twin?

It either flexes, or it don't.
My VTR's frame is designed to flex.
The RC isn't.
There is no way in hell I cold push an RC hard enough on the street to force the frame to flex.

Coming from a long line of flexy pre 1978 motorcycles, I love bikes that don't flex.
 
Inline twin. :P
 
There's a reason Yamaha is going to inline threes for all it's super sports. Just sayin'.
 
I'm an I4 guy.
I dont get the hype about the twins, no matter how much i test ride

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V4.


Very few bikes have a V4 so not many people have ridden one but they are awesome.


They make power all through the rev range and are truly the best of both worlds.

They sound amazing too.
 
I'm an I4 guy.
I dont get the hype about the twins, no matter how much i test ride

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We can test ride each others bike if you want ;) 750 and 848 would be a good comparison
 
Another vote for v-twin. For me, they are just so much more fun on the street. On the track (where I have never been), I could see how revving out an inline 4 would induce a huge smile, but chugging around in town on one is just torture for me.
 
There's a reason Yamaha is going to inline threes for all it's super sports. Just sayin'.

Fair point, but don't make the mistake of assuming that the product which sells best is the product that works best.

Inlines tend to be popular in this class because supersport buyers love to boast high horsepower specs and a top speed that can triple the speed limit (or more). Unfortunately the tradeoff is that most of this power is way up in the power band where it's largely impractical to use in everyday street riding. Plenty of advanced riders on i4s also have stories of being overtaken by SV650s on the track, so it's not a foregone conclusion that inlines are better for all track riders either.

I'm not knocking i4s, in fact I love em as well as V-twins. But don't assume because you see a lot of inlines out there, that they're automatically the better bike. They might give a clear edge to the best riders in the world who can really push a bike to its limits on the track, but for the rest of us, it's a tougher call.
 
Fair point, but don't make the mistake of assuming that the product which sells best is the product that works best.

Inlines tend to be popular in this class because supersport buyers love to boast high horsepower specs and a top speed that can triple the speed limit (or more). Unfortunately the tradeoff is that most of this power is way up in the power band where it's largely impractical to use in everyday street riding. Plenty of advanced riders on i4s also have stories of being overtaken by SV650s on the track, so it's not a foregone conclusion that inlines are better for all track riders either.

I'm not knocking i4s, in fact I love em as well as V-twins. But don't assume because you see a lot of inlines out there, that they're automatically the better bike. They might give a clear edge to the best riders in the world who can really push a bike to its limits on the track, but for the rest of us, it's a tougher call.

I've always heard that I4s (at least 600cc or smaller) are terrible commuters/street bikes and they're only popular for the reasons you mentioned. High HP numbers people can brag about at Tim's. Of course, due to their popularity, most of the twin engines are only used in the budget bikes so the I4s also generally get a better chassis than the twins. Except when you go to Aprilia or Ducati, that is.
 
I think the question whether it's something you could notice (and how do you notice it), or something you're saying because you read about it.



I'm saying it because I felt it. I din't remember reading it.
 
We can test ride each others bike if you want ;) 750 and 848 would be a good comparison
Thanks for the offer.

I've been to a ducati demo ride & tried everything from a 1098, 696 to motard. My ex-boss had one exactly like yours except it was matte black. He gave me a test ride where I took my sweet arse time to assess it. Great power but it does have 100 more cc's to play with.

In traffic, my 750 don't have to shift much, most is 2nd and i like that.
 
Just to clarify, every single frame has flex designed into the build. Honda was the first to claim that they designed it with the type of riding in mind to flex in certain areas for certain effect. More flex and forgiveness for street bikes and stiffer for race replicas in a nutshell. The VTR1000 was MASSIVELY publicised as having a LOT of flex designed into it. If you ever read anything at all about the VTR (including just glancing at a magazine ad) you could not escape without knowing about the extra flex and the magical powers of Honda engineering.
No bike frame on the planet is impervious to flex, but some are pretty dang stiff.
 
Thanks for the offer.

I've been to a ducati demo ride & tried everything from a 1098, 696 to motard. My ex-boss had one exactly like yours except it was matte black. He gave me a test ride where I took my sweet arse time to assess it. Great power but it does have 100 more cc's to play with.

In traffic, my 750 don't have to shift much, most is 2nd and i like that.

I've never left second around town either and the 6th gear is really useless unless I'm going at least 140km+. It has 100 more cc's but I'm pretty sure the 750 will dust it in a straight away.
 
What i love in an engine is a linear powerband. Not abrupt sudden changes.
Give me that & I'm happy
 
Just to clarify, every single frame has flex designed into the build. Honda was the first to claim that they designed it with the type of riding in mind to flex in certain areas for certain effect. More flex and forgiveness for street bikes and stiffer for race replicas in a nutshell. The VTR1000 was MASSIVELY publicised as having a LOT of flex designed into it. If you ever read anything at all about the VTR (including just glancing at a magazine ad) you could not escape without knowing about the extra flex and the magical powers of Honda engineering.
No bike frame on the planet is impervious to flex, but some are pretty dang stiff.

Ducati's trellis frame was designed not to flex. Their Panigale not so much

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