Clock is ticking as the Gardiner Expressway crumbles

Scuba Steve said:
How about a provincial property tax with an across the board mill rate. Would even things up everywhere and significantly reduce taxes for everyone outside the Toronto.
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Or, and this might be a crazy idea, we elect a government and hold them responsible so that they dont waste 585 million on moving power plants to save some seats, 1.5 billion a year on full day kindergarten, another 1 billion on ehealth scandal, and who the hell even knows how much was ****** away on ornge..
 
Paul1000RR said:
Or, and this might be a crazy idea, we elect a government and hold them responsible so that they dont waste 585 million on moving power plants to save some seats, 1.5 billion a year on full day kindergarten, another 1 billion on ehealth scandal, and who the hell even knows how much was ****** away on ornge..
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that's crazy talk.
 
nfq said:
that's crazy talk.
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Don't tell him about the $20 Billion fighter jets we are getting but will really costs us $40 Billion, not that we need the $20 Billion ones either.
 
Yesterday Wynne said McGuinty will be answering questions as truthfully and honestly as he can.

I stared at the tube for a long second to see if her face or eyes makes any twitch, apparently she can lie very well
 
RockerGuy said:
Yesterday Wynne said McGuinty will be answering questions as truthfully and honestly as he can.

I stared at the tube for a long second to see if her face or eyes makes any twitch, apparently she can lie very well
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you don't go that far politically without have a proper poker face.
 
Well and all this sums it up.... We wasted billions in Ontario that could have gone towards this. We also had that extra plate tax in Toronto that could have gone toward this (with all that extra money why didn't miller get this all going... simple money went else where).

We already have plate fees and gas taxes and... where is this all going? Before there are any extra taxes we need to know how much is being collected now for roads and how much is being spent. We do not need more road fees to pay for non-transport causes. Once we know this, then we can decide cut or pay more.

Right now they just want us to pay more.
 
nfq said:
you don't go that far politically without have a proper poker face.
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True...

backmarkerducati said:
Well and all this sums it up.... We wasted billions in Ontario that could have gone towards this. We also had that extra plate tax in Toronto that could have gone toward this (with all that extra money why didn't miller get this all going... simple money went else where).

We already have plate fees and gas taxes and... where is this all going? Before there are any extra taxes we need to know how much is being collected now for roads and how much is being spent. We do not need more road fees to pay for non-transport causes. Once we know this, then we can decide cut or pay more.

Right now they just want us to pay more.
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That has been their solution for the longest while. If they can't get enough, tax us again. They are not fixing the problem.

Its as if there is a leak in my gas tank, but instead of patching it, they are just adding more fuel
 
People only want to hear good news.
People do not want to hear they will have to "work" or sacrifice for the better.
Happy happy joy joy.
 
BuckWild said:
Yes. Tolls everywhere.
Why not.

I agree with the waste of money on stupid stuff.
That wavy walkway thing they have on Queens Quay area costs a couple million.
It is closed now so you want walk on it because a few people fell down and twister their ankles.
That is one giant waste of money or kickback to some friend.
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Instead of that how about tolls nowhere, because our gas taxes are supposed to pay for that sort of thing? How about doing away with the concept of "general coffers" so that the money collected for a purpose must be used for that purpose, thereby forcing a degree of fiscal responsibility?
 
backmarkerducati said:
Well and all this sums it up.... We wasted billions in Ontario that could have gone towards this. We also had that extra plate tax in Toronto that could have gone toward this (with all that extra money why didn't miller get this all going... simple money went else where).

We already have plate fees and gas taxes and... where is this all going? Before there are any extra taxes we need to know how much is being collected now for roads and how much is being spent. We do not need more road fees to pay for non-transport causes. Once we know this, then we can decide cut or pay more.

Right now they just want us to pay more.
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Here's a question that you might want to ask yourself: Where did all of that money come from that they were calling surpluses, at the end of budget years?

Hint: They allotted, but didn't spend, money for upkeep on The Gardiner every year.
 
One should be asking who is getting the kickbacks from the cancelled power plants deal.
How the hell do you not read the cancellation clause? There is a big difference from $30 million to $300 million.
Try that with your job.

Isn't amazing how nobody goes to jail.
 
BuckWild said:
One should be asking who is getting the kickbacks from the cancelled power plants deal.
How the hell do you not read the cancellation clause? There is a big difference from $30 million to $300 million.
Try that with your job.

Isn't amazing how nobody goes to jail.
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