Nascar - engines and tires a flyin'

That's the thing. It's simple physics. You don't need the leverage from a steering wheel off a lake tanker if the race car actually turns.

So ONLY the racing you like is real racin....I see
 
That's the thing. It's simple physics. You don't need the leverage from a steering wheel off a lake tanker if the race car actually turns.

^^^ that's contrarion in itself. Keep 'em coming :D

Oh.......BTW............if you hear a knock on the door @ 2:00 - 3:00am........grab your camera. If the precip is more snow than rain - we'll cut a path on Snake Rd.........for starters.
 
Oki-dokie. If there's no answer at the door I'm out in the garage fabricating a bolt on steering wheel extender for your truck. :p
 
I know Cole. He always goes to the outside.
 
That's the thing. It's simple physics. You don't need the leverage from a steering wheel off a lake tanker if the race car actually turns.

When your car only weighs 1000lbs you of course wouldn't need a large steering wheel.

When your car goes 200mph and weighs 4000lbs, and you have to drive it for 4-5 hours per race, it helps to have a bigger wheel with the seat pushed closer forward. It's an entirely different set of situations.
 
When your car goes 200mph and weighs 4000lbs, and you have to drive it for 4-5 hours per race, it helps to have a bigger wheel with the seat pushed closer forward. It's an entirely different set of situations.

Awesome explanation!

Maybe now you can explain how guys do double stints (3-4 hours) going from 240 to 50 and back up to 240 through the chicanes on the Mulsanne Straight for 24 hours in a car with a itty-bitty little steering wheel like this for me too.

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Racin is racin...wtf do want to know? Your racin is better? Why so childish? I like f-1 too...last year was awesome...finally had some good racing...and god forbid they had some passing.
Big cars goin 200mph on a oval you need to get up on the wheel ...just like they say...need sit closer and you need small increments of movement to keep that car out of the wall or swapping ends. In the Nascar road courses the steering wheel is smaller. The difference is a every day road car vs a freakin go cart. Sportbike vs a cruiser....which is better?...the one you enjoy is and it's different for everyone. I will never get this ridiculous attitude some people have.
 
Awesome explanation!

Maybe now you can explain how guys do double stints (3-4 hours) going from 240 to 50 and back up to 240 through the chicanes on the Mulsanne Straight for 24 hours in a car with a itty-bitty little steering wheel like this for me too.

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Pictured is a 2000lbs race car with a quick steering ratio. You need that when your course actually has braking zones and turns.

When your course is a large oval where you won't likely see speeds below 160(?) mph and every minute steering input could mean a certain crash, the wheel is bigger and ratio wider.

If you need some more lessons in the most basic fundamental differences between stock car and LeMans prototype racing, I'll be here.
 
Pictured is a 2000lbs race car with a quick steering ratio.

:confused: Quick steering ratio? That's your explanation? Well, that's rich.

Next question. How come a plated, street legal GT3 can lap the Glen faster than a purpose built for road courses NASCAR race car? The Corvette Race Divison's LeMans GT cars always do well at la Sarthe, so the Americans can build cars that can navigate a corner. How come the Good 'ol Boys can't?




This should be good.
 
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You seem to be confused. A race car is built for a specific purpose. The reason any half-way decent sports car can beat a NASCAR race car on a road course is because they're faster than a 4000lbs sled built to go 200mph in a giant circle. Duh???
 
Check out how close these idiots sit to the steering wheel...

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must be some redneck NASCAR racing or something :lmao:
 
You seem to be confused. A race car is built for a specific purpose. The reason any half-way decent sports car can beat a NASCAR race car on a road course is because they're faster than a 4000lbs sled built to go 200mph in a giant circle. Duh???

Ah, but the cars they drive at Infineon and the Glen aren't the same cars they use for oval racing. They're built specifically for road courses (they just can't seem to get it right). I guess you didn't know that.

Next question. How come some of the teams bring in ringers like Boris Said to drive their cars at said road courses?

Loaded questions, I know, but it's fun reading your replies.
 
To further your debate:

2013 V8 Supercar Mercedes E63 AMG
1400KG (3080lbs)
650HP
300KM/h top speed

And not using semi truck steering
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The funny part is, mmmmnaked throws in a pic of a WRC car, yet he hasn't got a clue why they use such odd ergonomics.

That gonna be my next question for him. Why such an odd driving position for WRC? The answer's a two-parter. Seeing as I'm such a nice guy, I'm gonna give him a clue to part one (lord knows he needs one).

This is Marcus Gronholm. He's 6' 3"

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I can't read it again. No time :p. In any event, those so called "hicks" have little to worry about.

Out of interest (because it bores me to death)........how many passes are made (on average) in any given F1 race?
From the bits & pieces I've watched - it appears the pole sitter usually wins, uncontested (unless something mechanical ****s up).

If you're a fan of passing, NASCAR is your sport. If you're a fan of racing, not so much.
 
NASCAR is a snoozefest. But only an idiot would wonder why a sports car is faster around a road course than a NASCAR sled.

Its like putting an F1 cart on a NASCAR oval to run with those guys and wondering why it couldn't make it half way through the first lap.

The cars are built for a very narrow purpose. To drive fast in a circle.
 
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