rmemedic
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Should get the evap system smoke tested to check for leaks.
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New emissions test coming?
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Should get the evap system smoke tested to check for leaks.
That's exactly why the existing test is flawed. Fuel vapours are quite toxic, and when millions of cars drove around without EVAP controls it amounted to a significant increase in risk of cancers. They were also the primary cause of smog. We don't talk much about smog any more because of all the functioning EVAP systems. IMO if you ever donate money to a cancer research charity, your money would do more to combat cancer if you spent it fixing an EVAP leak.
Venom01
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All that being said I don't have a leak. I can go into it but I'm using a phone and typing out the whole explanation on this frigging thing. Maybe when I get in front of a real keyboard later tonight.
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If you think thats messed up google egr, scr and dpf systems for heavy trucks. This has been a cluster **** for years and will continue to be a money pit for years to come.
Trucks costs have gone up 10s of thousands of dollars, reliability has gone down to ****, and when things go wrong no one seems to know how to fix it.
Let the government touch anything and the aftermath is no surprise.
So when are they going to make the EVAP systems mandatory on bikes like they are in Cali?
Just give it time. The government is going "green" pissing away our money on systems that cost us more money, and in the end we end up using more fuel hahahah
My guess is it'll happen when there's enough bikes on the road that adding the extra bureaucratic layer will make a meaningful impact.
i believe its cars made after 1988 (or something like that) as thats when all cars were mandated to have cats
VW's just got more expensive all of a sudden
wonder how it will effects diesels, before it was a kick of the tire, a look at the exhaust... lol.. worst Etest ever
I just reset my codes before I do a test
This WILL NOT WORK. Clearing the codes doesn't set readiness. The readiness bits will only get set after the ECU has performed the relevant function test on the subsystem. Sometimes this happens right away, other times it can take some period of driving - possibly a couple hundred kilometers or thereabouts or a set number of cold start and warm-up cycles.
For diesels with OBD-II, it becomes the same as every other vehicle. My 2006 VW has full OBD-II. Gasoline fueled vehicles all got OBD-II in 1996. My previous VW diesel was a 1996 Passat, which had a half-baked OBD-D system - not quite OBD-II compliant. And VW was selling the old mechanical injection diesel engine through 1997. That one doesn't have OBD-II because it doesn't have any electronics. I don't know what happens to the people who own 1996 or 1997 VW diesels with either no electronics or non-OBD compliant electronics.
Diesels still have one advantage ... no EVAP system! Diesel fuel isn't volatile enough to need it.
I bought a 2006 VW diesel for very good reason ... I knew the next generation emission systems were coming, and I didn't want to deal with it.
Mine has a wide-band O2 sensor, an oxidizing catalyst, and a cooled EGR system (which has a leak in the bypass valve ... hence why I want to get it tested before the end of the year - although it only trips a code when it's well below freezing outside). It's still clean enough to pass Euro 4 and Tier 1 LEV standards (that were in effect through 2006).
The new ones have a high-pressure common-rail injection system (and they've been having big trouble with the pumps), TWO EGR systems (one high pressure, one low pressure - and the low pressure one has been trouble because it introduces moisture from the exhaust into the intercooler which then freezes inside the intercooler when driving in really cold weather, which wreaks havoc), FOUR catalytic converters (an oxidizing cat, a diesel particulate filter, a lean-NOx catalyst, and a de-H2S catalyst), and a throttle valve in the exhaust under the car to make the low-pressure EGR system work (which seizes up all the time), and it still has an EGR cooler (and history has shown that these tend to leak, like mine does).
I intend to keep my pretty-clean but slightly older tech diesel on the road for as long as I can. I suspect that if you compare mine with 400,000 km on it and a brand new common-rail, the common-rail will get to the point of being uneconomical to keep on the road before mine will ...
Here is a well written explanation of the new Drive Clean methods, and why "resetting the codes" just before doing your DriveClean won't work.
Also, the tech's will now have to take freakin pictures of your license plate and dashboard, to prove its actually your car that got tested. So all you guys with phony license plates will get busted too.
http://www.wheels.ca/news/check-engine-on-expect-to-fail-new-drive-clean-test/
Also, the tech's will now have to take freakin pictures of your license plate and dashboard, to prove its actually your car that got tested. So all you guys with phony license plates will get busted too.
http://www.wheels.ca/news/check-engine-on-expect-to-fail-new-drive-clean-test/
phony license plates?
Not only do they have to take pictures, the unit has a webcam which a ministry overseer can access to watch for fraud attempts or help the technician. I'm told (but don't know with any authority) that the new fine for a technician trying to scam the system is $4,000,000.
I don't know what plates have to do with anything, but they do have to scan the VIN barcode, which I'm guessing is where fraud might be committed with the current system.
Doesn't the OBD-II signal have some vehicle identifiers too, or is just no database to correlate ECUs to VINs?
My OBD2 reader and what they will use can tell if the codes have been recently reset. You will get a failure if you reset the codes prior to the test. This includes disconnecting the battery to reset the codes. In fact, if you have no codes and hit reset codes or disconnect the battery before the test you will fail. The monitored systems will show as incomplete in all the above cases. It takes some time for the monitored systems to show complete, and BTW if there were codes they will likely be back as well.
Cars 87 and older still do not need a test. This was originally cars older than 19 years and this date rolled forward as time went on. In 2007 (or was it 06) they anchored the date. If you have an 88 it will always need to be tested, if you have an 87 or older you are off the hook.
If your car is not OBD2 (I think 96 and older) they will be doing the old tailpipe test on it with the old equipment. If it is OBD2 then you get the new test.
E-tests are good for one year. If you have an even number year car you will have to get a test to get your 2014 plate. Assuming your birthday is not the last days of December if you get the test now it will be good when you have to do your plate renewal, a test now will be under the old system. Important if your CEL is on right now.... Or if you have an older car that may have some failure in the near future...
Cars 87 and older still do not need a test. This was originally cars older than 19 years and this date rolled forward as time went on. In 2007 (or was it 06) they anchored the date. If you have an 88 it will always need to be tested, if you have an 87 or older you are off the hook.
If your car is not OBD2 (I think 96 and older) they will be doing the old tailpipe test on it with the old equipment. If it is OBD2 then you get the new test.
E-tests are good for one year. If you have an even number year car you will have to get a test to get your 2014 plate. Assuming your birthday is not the last days of December if you get the test now it will be good when you have to do your plate renewal, a test now will be under the old system. Important if your CEL is on right now.... Or if you have an older car that may have some failure in the near future...
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