I rode my first supersport bike and..

I ride an 848 evo............. got it 3 weeks ago.... I cannot get out of second gear in a 60km zone...... otherwise I am gonna get a ticket...

getting up to 100km/hr is literally a few blinks of my eye...

But I gotta say, its still more fun than my ex500 that I had for 5 yrs :) EVERYTIME i go from 0 - 60 in what feels like zero seconds, i have a smile on my face!

I picked up a 2008 Ducati 848 around a month ago, and I still haven't had the chance to reach 5th gear (all city riding though)... Most of the time I'm in 1st gear and 2nd gear (3rd gear I was going 100+km/h and the engine is growling due to low rpm)..... kind of crazy..
 
I picked up a 2008 Ducati 848 around a month ago, and I still haven't had the chance to reach 5th gear (all city riding though)... Most of the time I'm in 1st gear and 2nd gear (3rd gear I was going 100+km/h and the engine is growling due to low rpm)..... kind of crazy..

Riding is a 40km zone on first gear is pretty ridiculous. This bike wants to get a ticket I tell you ;)
 
Try a Buell. I had an XB9S with a stage 1 kit. You don't really need a 1200....the 1,000 revs higher. Such a sweet bike. Since my Kawa 750 i4 I've stuck with twins and never looked back. Low revving, so 7,000 sounds like you're at warp speed. For super quick and underrated cheap V tiwn, buy a Honda Firestorm VTR 1,000. Mine was a great bike and only $3,000. Replaced my Buell and Firestorm with a Victory Vegas. Great build quality but expensive to buy, and a cruiser...tried it, but not for me.
Now own a BMW R1100S sport tourer. 100 hp and loves to rev. Fantastic brakes and rock solid handling. Technically best bike I've had (and I've had lots)...OK for over 40's but might be seen as a old fart's bike. The F800 might be a good option for a younger guy / gal...
 
That's because the human intellect doesn't recognize 100km/h as "fast'. 120km/h is reasonable, 150km/h+ is "making time." Unfortunately, the government has decided that speed over 100km/h means "more revenue."

+1

On my way to plead to a lesser 49+ the other day in Milton, the 401 Westbound at 830am was averaging 135 kph with well over 15 other cars along the way breaking 150kph.

Crossed the 401 to Whitby later that day and average express lanes was about 125kph. Just think a good pass could see you on City Pulse the same evening with Officer Keener McTaxman conducting an interview.

PS I love thrashing my nephew's cbr 125 to its limits despite riding a 1200cc SS twin. Brian P is on to something!
 
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When I demo-ed the Daytona 675, I was all smiles. I don't really get that "small bike more fun" thing...that triple is intoxicating, for me hands down the best sounding bike, no competition, not even close...
It HURT getting back on my 250...I felt like I was riding a scooter.
 
That's because the human intellect doesn't recognize 100km/h as "fast'. 120km/h is reasonable, 150km/h+ is "making time." Unfortunately, the government has decided that speed over 100km/h means "more revenue."

The 100km/h limit may have something to do with revenue but it is more likely the realization that the average driver does not have the skill or ability to travel with confidence at that speed(at least not in moderate traffic in the GTA). Not to meantion the lack of vehicle maintenance(brakes, suspension and tires), distractions(cellphone, lipstick, a good novel...), weather and horrible road conditions and design. You may be a proficient highly trained motorist but the average person is not.

To the OP, I rode a Ducati Hypermotard this year and if you want to feel speed that is your ride (an added bonus of "anytime" wheelies)
 
The 100km/h limit may have something to do with revenue but it is more likely the realization that the average driver does not have the skill or ability to travel with confidence at that speed(at least not in moderate traffic in the GTA).

Fixable. Turn driver training into a revenue stream - offset it with lower insurance prices. Say every three years there's a training day at a race track with oval and emergency stops, etc. It would create a whole new industry and cement the idea in everyone's head that the race track is where you play with your vehicle as well. In the offshoot, you identify the bad drivers.

But that makes too much sense, amirite?

Not to meantion the lack of vehicle maintenance(brakes, suspension and tires), distractions(cellphone, lipstick, a good novel...), weather and horrible road conditions and design. You may be a proficient highly trained motorist but the average person is not.

So how does that differ from today, really? Except that with higher highway speeds, you'd cut a lot of that out... nobody drives all that distracted at say 150km/h. The problems with today's speeds: higher congestion and greater distraction from boredom. Where do the accidents mostly come from? Congestion.

Oh and if you think the Hypermotard is cool, you should try a v-twin Tuono. I've ridden both at Deal's Gap and the Tuono is the better bike... not any prettier but definitely that extra 40hp or so in a only slightly heavier bike really work once the speeds go above 60mph. That said, the Ducati oozes cool chic, especially the version my buddy Glen owns (ohlins suspension, etc. etc.) and is pretty awesome in general as well. Didn't like the low RPM fuelling of the 'tard but the Tuono sometimes burps too under 4K RPM.
 
A "hooligan" bike like my hypermotard fills the slot you are talking about

+1. My F800R or a Street Triple would fit the bill. The wind hits you pretty hard going faster than 100 km/h due to lack of fairing and windscreen. But both get there in the blink of an eye.
 
you can be in 5th 6th gear on that ducati if only you knew how to ride, typical noobs, too much money not enough skill or brains.
 
Fixable. Turn driver training into a revenue stream - offset it with lower insurance prices. Say every three years there's a training day at a race track with oval and emergency stops, etc. It would create a whole new industry and cement the idea in everyone's head that the race track is where you play with your vehicle as well. In the offshoot, you identify the bad drivers.

But that makes too much sense, amirite?



So how does that differ from today, really? Except that with higher highway speeds, you'd cut a lot of that out... nobody drives all that distracted at say 150km/h. The problems with today's speeds: higher congestion and greater distraction from boredom. Where do the accidents mostly come from? Congestion.

Oh and if you think the Hypermotard is cool, you should try a v-twin Tuono. I've ridden both at Deal's Gap and the Tuono is the better bike... not any prettier but definitely that extra 40hp or so in a only slightly heavier bike really work once the speeds go above 60mph. That said, the Ducati oozes cool chic, especially the version my buddy Glen owns (ohlins suspension, etc. etc.) and is pretty awesome in general as well. Didn't like the low RPM fuelling of the 'tard but the Tuono sometimes burps too under 4K RPM.

No need to waist your breath on explaining the derivatives and importans of proper training to anyone, north america is based on revenue, greed prison slavery. Its not about, teaching, improving, looking at the details, caring and developing for the better ment of a society as a whole, those dreams only come true in places like sweden, netherlans etc. nothing but crooks running this part of the world.

btw our hiways should be 130 kph, not 100 kph, 100 kph is actually dangerous, it makes people fall asleep and causes more accidents then if the public traveled at 130kph 140kph like in europe and rest of the world where common sesnce and science actually are used properly. Canada has not updated its traffic laws based on current research its last one was done in 1973 based on cars from 1973 and technoloy from 1973, another reason why everyone fails at the MTO m2 road slalom text, because that motorcycle test at mto is based on bikes from the 1973's 1980's when bikes were no bigger then your typical 250, therefore new bikes today cannot do the slalom and people fail. the government milks all the fools and people don't care.
 
another reason why everyone fails at the MTO m2 road slalom text, because that motorcycle test at mto is based on bikes from the 1973's 1980's when bikes were no bigger then your typical 250, therefore new bikes today cannot do the slalom and people fail. the government milks all the fools and people don't care.

Slalom is quite easy, even on today's bikes. It simply requires clutch, throttle, and rear brake control. If one can't do it properly they should practice more. Or start on a bike that's easier than a SS.

I agree with everything else you said, though.
 
Only way to go is to think SMALL. I mean 250cc (ok, I'll grant 300cc) and below.

More fun to ride a small bike fast, than to ride a fast bike slow.

Agreed! I went from a 250 to a 600 this year, and boy do i miss my lil 250! I've never taken my f4i pass 130km/hr but I'm tempted to take it to its limit every time i take it out.
 
Agreed! I went from a 250 to a 600 this year, and boy do i miss my lil 250! I've never taken my f4i pass 130km/hr but I'm tempted to take it to its limit every time i take it out.

I did the same thing, 2012 250 last season and 2012 ZX6R this season. To get to 100kph on the 250 you had to go through most of the gears, on the 6R..... easily done in first. I just got my ZX6r on Thursday and put on 900kms on it so far. It is very easy to speed on SS, they just want to go. They are so stable you don't even notice you are going down the road at 120km/h. I "might" have exceeded your 130km by accident, though I have not broke the 200's yet. LOL. Only difficult task for that is that extra quarter turn on the throttle.
 
+1

On my way to plead to a lesser 49+ the other day in Milton, the 401 Westbound at 830am was averaging 135 kph with well over 15 other cars along the way breaking 150kph.

Crossed the 401 to Whitby later that day and average express lanes was about 125kph. Just think a good pass could see you on City Pulse the same evening with Officer Keener McTaxman conducting an interview.

PS I love thrashing my nephew's cbr 125 to its limits despite riding a 1200cc SS twin. Brian P is on to something!

Lol... "your honour..I wasn't going that fast...you see, I could have gone an awful lot faster"
 
I did the same thing, 2012 250 last season and 2012 ZX6R this season. To get to 100kph on the 250 you had to go through most of the gears, on the 6R..... easily done in first. I just got my ZX6r on Thursday and put on 900kms on it so far. It is very easy to speed on SS, they just want to go. They are so stable you don't even notice you are going down the road at 120km/h. I "might" have exceeded your 130km by accident, though I have not broke the 200's yet. LOL. Only difficult task for that is that extra quarter turn on the throttle.

wait until you see how much fun they are when they start leaning over ;)
 
The 100km/h limit may have something to do with revenue but it is more likely the realization that the average driver does not have the skill or ability to travel with confidence at that speed(at least not in moderate traffic in the GTA). Not to meantion the lack of vehicle maintenance(brakes, suspension and tires), distractions(cellphone, lipstick, a good novel...), weather and horrible road conditions and design. You may be a proficient highly trained motorist but the average person is not.

To the OP, I rode a Ducati Hypermotard this year and if you want to feel speed that is your ride (an added bonus of "anytime" wheelies)

Yes and this is why the AutoBahn in Germany is one of the safest roads in the world, yet has limitless parts to it for a large portion of it.
 
Yes and this is why the AutoBahn in Germany is one of the safest roads in the world, yet has limitless parts to it for a large portion of it.

I don't get why North Americans love to reference the Autobahn in their arguments for more speed.

Germany (arguably all of western/central Europe) has a very civilized driving culture. In addition, they have VERY difficult and VERY stringent licensing requirements and tests. They won't even recognize many foreign licenses (unrestricted or otherwise) This is why the Autobahn can exist. And even with that being said, the Autobahn does have speed limits, they're just digital boards and are changed on the fly by a traffic control centre to suit the flow of traffic and amount of traffic. You'll only see them blank from night to early morning.
 
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