Who wound up with my 1987 FZ750 pure sports?

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krrakt

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Hey,
I was wondering if someone knows who's hands my bike ended up in.

Back in 2001 I just finished a total rebuild of an FZ. It ended up being quite cool.
So besides the mechanical rebuild and upgrades the most noticeable thing on the bike was the fairing mounting.

The fairings were held on with pins and attached together with industrial strength Velcro. This made the bodywork a snap to remove to work on the bike and reduced most vibration coming from the fairings.

It had a corbin seat as well

I painted the upper cowl metallic blue and the mid panels pearl white. Stock FZ decals all round as well.
The bike was stolen in 2002, was not insured, the ownership was under the seat and the cop who came to make the report did not really complete the report properly (without V.I.N.).

I thought the bike was gone, tracked or parted out, but I was wrong!

When I went to renew my sticker this year at the MTO I asked about that bike. They informed me that I was no longer the registered owner and the bike was bought at auction in 2004.

They would not tell me who had it and I don't really care at this point. I just put so much time (about two years) into it and only rode it for 3 months, I was wondering if anyone has seen it around.

Crazy eh?
 
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So they found your bike, but never contacted you? Oh, but then they sold it and kept the money. Seems legit. Not sure about the process, but that sounds like bs.
 
Joe Bass said:
So they found your bike, but never contacted you? Oh, but then they sold it and kept the money. Seems legit. Not sure about the process, but that sounds like bs.
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Yeah really. If insurance had paid out then yeah that makes sense. But who keeps the money here?
 
kellen said:
Yeah really. If insurance had paid out then yeah that makes sense. But who keeps the money here?
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The insurer keeps the money from the sale of the bike. Once they pay out on the claim they become the legal owners of the property. Just like they can ask for your gear if they pay you out for it.

there was no reason to contact the OP. When the bike was recovered the police would have rn the VIN and it would have come back to the insurer so they would contact the legal owner.

EDIT: That is NORMAL procedure then I recalled the OP said bike wasn't insured. So then likely one of two things happened the bike couldn't be tied back to him, (he said officer never recorded the VIN on report), thereofre, it would be "treated" like an abandoned bike, (same thing would happen if the Op had moved chnged numbers etc and was o longer reachable.

OR

someone messed up and didn't bother to track the OP and simply put the bike into a police auction, and it was sold off.
 
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hedo2002 said:
The insurer keeps the money from the sale of the bike. Once they pay out on the claim they become the legal owners of the property. Just like they can ask for your gear if they pay you out for it.

there was no reason to contact the OP. When the bike was recovered the police would have rn the VIN and it would have come back to the insurer so they would contact the legal owner.
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............the bike wasn't insured


So again, who got the money from the sale?
 
I'm going with the 2nd part of Hedo's post. No vin and no one bothered to contact the op. Not a shot against cops/ system, just against the magnitude of laziness in today's world by most workers to do anything even remotely above and beyond their normal duties. Only in this case it affected the op financially.
Rant over.
 
Hmmm. It's pretty hard for a police department to file a stolen vehicle report without a VIN. The report would be automatically flagged by the databasing software when required fields are left blank, and the report wouldn't pass internal audit. Even missing vehicle reports tend to be the same way. I suppose there could be a police department that is stuck in the 80s. Was it ever plated by you?
 
kellen said:
............the bike wasn't insured


So again, who got the money from the sale?
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Edited my reply after you posted if it was sold at Police auction then it goes into city coffers. Sounds like it was one of those which "slipped through the cracks" Likely some property clerk didn't want to go hunting for the OP
 
cool said:
Your title actually hurts my head. If you dont care then what is the point of this thread? . you need a blog .... Badly.... Or even a vlog.
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Thanks for the reply's,
The bike was not insured and I'm not complaining about anything.
The MTO said my bike was in Scarborough.
I went to the police station, 54 div. and requested a copy of the original report. It was very short and incomplete. No VIN, just a short description where my bike was parked and so incomplete that it only said FZ and could be misinterpreted as a bicycle.
The officers notes were archived by someone else so there could have been errors made there. It has ben quite a while.
I put many hours and bucks into this project at the time so I would like to see the bike if it is still running!
Again I'm not complaining.
Thanks again.

ps. I have one picture of the bike, I'll scan and post it in a minute.
 
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Don't mind Cool, he just likes to cause a Ruckus :p
 
Here is a picture.
 
The V.I.N. Should have been on the report if it was registered to you. The cop would just have to run you and see which vehicles are registered to you and add that info to the report. When the bike was recovered it was likely towed and stored waiting for somebody to recover it whether it be the insurance company or registered owner. After 60 days a registered letter would have been sent to the registered owner before the bike was sold.

Something doesnt add up here.
 
ve3nsv said:
The V.I.N. Should have been on the report if it was registered to you. The cop would just have to run you and see which vehicles are registered to you and add that info to the report. When the bike was recovered it was likely towed and stored waiting for somebody to recover it whether it be the insurance company or registered owner. After 60 days a registered letter would have been sent to the registered owner before the bike was sold.

Something doesnt add up here.
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I was never notified of the bike being found. Maybe by todays standards it would be an easy thing to put together but in 2001 the computer systems were not what they are today. The first time I had any indication that my bike was found was this month. It was found a few days after I reported it and I was never informed about it.
I did not ride for about 7 years after that bike was lost so I certainly would have liked to have it back.
In retrospect the cop was really uninterested at the time and I think he was just lazy and did not thoroughly do his job. I believe that was the reason this thing kinda "fell through the cracks" as someone described.

It would be pretty interesting to see it running though.
 
sorry for your loss....

here is mine after doing a rebuild on her last year, and this year she is getting a new paint job,,,eventually....

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A grave injustice.

"There is no bitterness. If I was bitter, that would mean they won" Rubin H. Carter
 
Post up the vin# or send it to me by a PM, my friend at the MTO will pull the owner for me for free. I can post it here or send you a PM with his/her details. I'll give you a cops name/number that will get your bike back to you at no cost (possession of stolen property) with the info I provide.
 
It wouldn't "qualify" as possession of stolen property, if the bike was sold at auction. Once the bike sat in the impound lot for a period of time, it is classified as abandoned and can be sold to recover some of the impound fees.

The OP may very well have a pretty strong CIVIL case against the Toronto Police Service. As well as the auction service which disposed of the bike. The impound yard, (unless they are affiliated with the auction house), would have "clean hands" as well, as they have no way of determining the registered owner.

You may want to VERY cautious in what "help" you offer up. If the "new owner" wanted to be a dick they could file a complaint against whoever in the MTO releases this info, (meaning your friend could lose their job), as this would be considered a breach of trust. There is a reason the MTO wouldn't just hand this info over when the OP asked. If a copper shows up at their door and seizes the bike I would also be filing a complaint with professional standards. The police are to act in "good faith" as well and if the officer knows this bike wasn't "stolen" then he/she is leqving themselves open as well. No need to go this route anyway. As has already been suggested the oP already has the VIN they can go to any Service Ontario location and for $20, buy a UVIP which will contain the "new" registered owners info. OP go the "smart route" and if you really need to know, handle this on your own. I understand john is trying to be helpful but it "could" back fire on his friends.

If all the OP truly wnats is to know if the bike is running he can do a reverse number search on canada411 and call the RO, or if that doesn't work just drop buy and have a chat.

The person who purchased the bike would have a VERY strong criminal defence case that they "acted in good faith" when purchasing the bike.

johnscruiser said:
Post up the vin# or send it to me by a PM, my friend at the MTO will pull the owner for me for free. I can post it here or send you a PM with his/her details. I'll give you a cops name/number that will get your bike back to you at no cost (possession of stolen property) with the info I provide.
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krrakt said:
Here is what it looked like when I got it.

http://www.rddecals.afegraphics.com..._id=19183&catname='1987 FZ750/FZ700 Red White'

This bike was a king in it's day, It won the isle of man TT and many other endurance contests.

In 1991 I had an 85 FZ750 which was almost the same bike except it has 4 into 2 exhaust and only the upper cowling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_FZ750
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Nice bike. That was one of my options to upgrade to when I rode back in NZ, back in the day. I like the upper cowling look.
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