What is your riding style on the curves? Relaxed, or butt off the seat?

ike

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After watching the way some people ride the curves on the road, I thought I'd ask..... what is your riding style?

My style is to just relax and countersteer around curves in the road. This way, my butt stays on the seat and my upper body naturally attempts to stay upright as the bike leans over into the corner. I figure that the fewer changes I introduce into the chassis when I am cornering, the more stable the bike will be. In addition, this serves to keep maximum downward force on the tire's contact patch thus improving traction. This also seems to be the natural inclination that a passenger might have.

A buddy of mine likes to keep his butt planted on the seat, then lean his upper body into the corner to tip the bike. He only consciously countersteers if he he enters the corner too "hot" or finds he is in a decreasing radius corner and needs to heel the bike over more. Seems like a lot of work, though.

On the other hand, I have seen a few riders who shift their butts off the seat and seem to hang their whole body into the curve while the bike stays relatively upright, no matter how mundane the curve might be. This seems like a lot of unnecessary work and might make the bike less stable in the event of a road irregularity. I could understand riding that way on the track, where you are perhaps approaching the tire's limits of adhesion and you are trying to get a little more weight closer to the ground while still staying on the treaded part of the tire (on the track, the curves have some good cambers that support this style, too.) This style of riding would seem to take the greatest amount of effort from the rider without any real benefit in real-world riding. I'm not quite sure why people do it - maybe someone could educate me on the finer details?

So, what is your style and why?
 
Relaxed. I haven't seen a street curve that I needed to get my butt off the seat for. I imagine I still have chicken strips.
 
Ride down to the Gap and then you'll see roads requiring your butt off the seat.

Having come back from there, I no longer find the need to get my butt off for these roads.
 
I don't have my butt off but I have my weight shifted and my shoulder dropped. I learned a good lesson about taking curves too laissez-faire - I ended up in the ditch. Now I take any curve ready for it to be decreasing radius with gravel in the middle and a squid across the centre line coming the other way. If people think I'm being too "racer" then that's their problem. I don't much care what others think.
 
Relaxed most of the time. One butt cheek off for on ramps. I see riders hanging off their bikes all the time, yet the bike is upright. Never really understood the mechanics of their technique.
 
Relaxed most of the time. One butt cheek off for on ramps. I see riders hanging off their bikes all the time, yet the bike is upright. Never really understood the mechanics of their technique.

You need to read and understand more about the physics of motorcycling then.
 
Relaxed most of the time. One butt cheek off for on ramps. I see riders hanging off their bikes all the time, yet the bike is upright. Never really understood the mechanics of their technique.

By hanging off you're able to keep the bike more upright. Think of it as using your body to pull the bike through the corner, rather than the bike pulling you.

Personally I find the initial turn in and mid corner balance most comfortable for me by shifting my butt an inch or two to the inside. If I'm riding as fast as I can I'll hang off more. It isn't really necessary most of the time and you should just ride however you're most comfortable. Bikes are meant to be fun so ride them however you want and just dont crash or put anyone else in harms way.
 
There aren't many roads around here that I would think I need to hang off on ... the only time I do is when I'm riding south of the border. Up here 99% of the time you can get by with just counter steering...
 
On the roads here? No, no need to hang. I do shift my butt over a bit when hitting an on/off ramps with some spirit but in general no. I do get a kick when I see people (and I see it more often then not) sticking their knee out going around the corners on Mississauga road do 40kph around the bends. I'm not making fun of them its just funny. Like a small little dog trying to pick up a basketball in its mouth funny.

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There are some good roads in the area people, you just gotta go out and find them!
I generally don't ride hard enough on the street that I'll drag a knee because I just don't trust the road surfaces (gravel, bumps, other users) etc.
However, I do sometimes move my body around when I'm out having fun on the good roads, but just so the bike stays more upright and if I need to I have more lean left to go.
 
Relaxed most of the time. One butt cheek off for on ramps. I see riders hanging off their bikes all the time, yet the bike is upright. Never really understood the mechanics of their technique.

The whole purpose of hanging off is to keep the bike as vertical as possible.
 
The whole purpose of hanging off is to keep the bike as vertical as possible.

Not at the expense of control. Modern street motorcycle tires are capable of 45+ degrees of lean, if you're in excess of that, then it's important to hang off.

If you are hanging off with only 15 degrees of lean, you're compromising your ability to control the bike in the event you need to stop or make a direction change quickly in the middle of a turn. That, and you look stupid. Better to be planted on the seat with a bit more lean angle, and just shift your weight to the inside of the turn, and have more control over the motorcycle in the event a car, moose, children, debris, variable road conditions appear while you're leaned over.
 
There aren't many roads around here that I would think I need to hang off on ... the only time I do is when I'm riding south of the border. Up here 99% of the time you can get by with just counter steering...

call me a idiot on the ramps but unless there's a car in front of me, slowing me down, I hang. N/B DVP ramp exit Bloor St 110 Km/hr etc...
 
I do get a kick when I see people (and I see it more often then not) sticking their knee out going around the corners on Mississauga road do 40kph around the bends. I'm not making fun of them its just funny. Like a small little dog trying to pick up a basketball in its mouth funny.

I can't speak for those people and don't ride that road but I naturally ride with my legs spread apart (even while riding straight) instead of tight to the tank...must be my big balls :rolleyes:. Seriously, that's how I comfortably ride and in easy corners my knee seems to drop cause of this. May look like I intend to try and drop my knee but it's already naturally dropped.
 
Ike, there is a lot to read and learn about it.
You may want to try Twist of the wrist book by Keith Code or his video. It's basic stuff but good source. Worth to give it a shot! Your best bet will be a track lesson to understand the basics.



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Depends on how fast I'm going into a ramp. Faster = bum shift off the seat to one side while keeping bike almost upright
 
I usually just lean my body into the turn little bit to keep the bike more upright as I was taught this is proper cornering technique. Leaning away from the turn (keeping your body upright while the bike leans over) will do wonders for removing chicken strips but, as far as I know, is not as stable as keeping the bike upright. Sometimes if I'm playing around I'll shift and hang off the bike slightly but I think that's just me not quite trusting my tires as much as I should. Even then, I'm never fully hanging off the side of the bike... just shifted over a couple inches.
 
shifting my body to the inside of the curve and putting more pressure on the inside peg makes the bike more stable and i feel more confident.

first time i went to deals gap i had no clue about proper riding technique and i wasnt shifting my weight in the corners = dragging foot pegs and no chicken strips. i read and read and read and practiced a lot since then and i can now go faster through the corners with less bike lean. Since deals gap i've never dragged any hard parts or scrubbed my chicken strips off and yet imperically i am going faster around the same corners.
 
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