What did you do in your garage today..?

There's a new battery for the killer sitting on the bench.

Old battery was 5 years. It shared a battery tender with 2 other bikes. Never had a blip. About a week ago I'm out riding. Made a couple stops everything fine. Make another stop and 15 minutes later the neutral light won't even illuminate. Not even a hint of a glow.
Is the death of a battery often so sudden?

It was a sealed maint free KMG from Kapscomoto. So is the new one.
Not normally that fast nor that complete. That sounds a lot more like a wiring issue which could easily kill all power. I guess conceivably, a connection could have broken inside the battery to get your symptoms but I've never seen it before. Have you tested the dead battery (ideally loaded but at least voltage)?
 
There's a new battery for the killer sitting on the bench.

Old battery was 5 years. It shared a battery tender with 2 other bikes. Never had a blip. About a week ago I'm out riding. Made a couple stops everything fine. Make another stop and 15 minutes later the neutral light won't even illuminate. Not even a hint of a glow.
Is the death of a battery often so sudden?

It was a sealed maint free KMG from Kapscomoto. So is the new one.

Not normal for a lead acid or AGM.

Very normal for a lithium. Those won't give you any warning that they're on the way out.
 
Voltage was 12.6 until I turned on the ignition. It dropped to about 4V with load.
 
Voltage was 12.6 until I turned on the ignition. It dropped to about 4V with load.

Did you read the voltage right when you took it off the tender or was it 12.6v after sitting in the bike overnight without a tender?

If it was right off the tender, might have been the surface charge you were reading.

Do you plug the battery into the tender every time you're off the bike? This might mask the symptoms of a failing battery.

5 years seems about the time a battery might decide to head out the door.
 
Door cables have been known to snap on Odysseys. If that has happened it's possible it's in there causing resistance.
Cables look ok, but can't find the fuses to confirm as that could be a simple issue with the car.

Will dig into it this afternoon and hopefully grab a fuse later today if it's found to be an issue.
 
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I have three different versions of this:

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Two telescopic, one of them narrow for tight spaces, one of them heavy duty for larger items, and another flex-neck one.

Found out that one of my long flat-heads is also magnetic. So four pick-up tools now!

Tools, bolts, etc. I drop them all... 😡😡😡
I unfortunately have to work on a gravel driveway. Those little fasteners are damn near invisible on gravel. Also fascinating is just how far a little screw can bounce.
 
I unfortunately have to work on a gravel driveway. Those little fasteners are damn near invisible on gravel. Also fascinating is just how far a little screw can bounce.
Princess auto wheeled magnet ftw (assuming you don't drop non-ferrous). I use mine far more for find the fastener than I do for cleaning nails out of the lawn.
 
I unfortunately have to work on a gravel driveway. Those little fasteners are damn near invisible on gravel. Also fascinating is just how far a little screw can bounce.

I have a relatively cheap Harbor Freight 10' x 12' tarp that I spread out and stake at the corners when working on or washing the bike on the gravel driveway at the cottage. Take 5 minutes to set up, bit of a hassle to do, but worth it.
 
I've resorted to that too when the magnet lets me down. Past repairs can come back to bite you with the detector. The rust you knocked off the edges of the brake discs spreads out and gives lots of hits.
I used one to find one of these after power washing cases in the back yard. Rookie move to leave the caps in....

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It would be interesting to see how much metal I pull up. There's large pieces of metal which have somehow disappeared from my lawn tractor. Embarrassingly large.
You can borrow my poverty radio shack finder if you want. It's not fancy but it beeps when it passes over metal.
 
I have a relatively cheap Harbor Freight 10' x 12' tarp that I spread out and stake at the corners when working on or washing the bike on the gravel driveway at the cottage. Take 5 minutes to set up, bit of a hassle to do, but worth it.
LOL. I took a white drop cloth - maybe 8x10 or so? - and laid it out, then rolled my bike onto it. I figured when the inevitable happened, the bolt/nut/screw would be easy to spot. Somehow whatever it was that I dropped, bounced OFF the soft drop cloth and onto the gravel.

Anybody ever try dropping a like fastener and looking to see where it landed under the theory that it might land close to the first one? Don't.
 
You can borrow my poverty radio shack finder if you want. It's not fancy but it beeps when it passes over metal.
Thanks @GreyGhost. Such generous people here. The problem is, I have 3 acres of varied terrain and my tractor has gone through all of it. If I'm walking the property, my wife is going to insist it be with a weed whacker on a harness.

What I really need is something like this, only with magnetic flails. Do you have one of these that I could borrow?

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Thanks @GreyGhost. Such generous people here. The problem is, I have 3 acres of varied terrain and my tractor has gone through all of it. If I'm walking the property, my wife is going to insist it be with a weed whacker on a harness.

What I really need is something like this, only with magnetic flails. Do you have one of these that I could borrow?

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For ferrous material over a large area, use the wheel magnet. If you want to be lazy about it, just attach it to the back of the lawnmower and you can cut and search at the same time. You can borrow it if you want but I need a heads up as I think my parents have it.

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For ferrous material over a large area, use the wheel magnet. If you want to be lazy about it, just attach it to the back of the lawnmower and you can cut and search at the same time. You can borrow it if you want but I need a heads up as I think my parents have it.

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Again, that's super generous. I wouldn't borrow it because my terrain is so varied, with lots of rocks and hard roots you don't even see until it's too late. The problem is made worse by the fact that my tractor was out of commission until recently, so I've only recently been able to properly start cutting the grass back regularly..

My neighbour once mowed my lawn for me when we were gone for a few weeks, and he told me "never again".

So I wouldn't be confident it would come back in the same shape.

I'm going to watch for PA sales and see if I can pick something up on a sale. Or watch Marketplace.
 
LOL. I took a white drop cloth - maybe 8x10 or so? - and laid it out, then rolled my bike onto it. I figured when the inevitable happened, the bolt/nut/screw would be easy to spot. Somehow whatever it was that I dropped, bounced OFF the soft drop cloth and onto the gravel.

Anybody ever try dropping a like fastener and looking to see where it landed under the theory that it might land close to the first one? Don't.

Amateurs.

If you're gonna drop a bolt or nut, you drop it *inside* the cylinder, like a real meshuggenuh.
 
It would be interesting to see how much metal I pull up. There's large pieces of metal which have somehow disappeared from my lawn tractor. Embarrassingly large.
When I was looking for the bearing cap I ended up digging out a large section of old cast iron water pipe. Ended up with a pretty big divot in the lawn.
 
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