We Know you Ride, But do you Shoot?

I’m considering getting my PAL but am having second thoughts after seeing the cost of ammo at Canadian Tire yesterday, I just about had a heart attack. Then I went overt to the paint section to get a quart of paint thinner which use to be about $3.99 and it’s now $15 but I’m getting off topic. I had my FAC years ago but it has since expired. Has anyone taken the in class PAL course recently that could give me a brief description of what it entails? I’d like to get a nice bolt action Tika in 308 or perhaps some historical military surplus like a Lee Enfield or K98.

Bolt action in .223 (NATO 5.56) is fun, pretty capable and cheaper to shoot. .22 is always cheap. 9mm too but it’s more a handgun round. I have a reloading set up for .223 as well.
 
Bolt action in .223 (NATO 5.56) is fun, pretty capable and cheaper to shoot. .22 is always cheap. 9mm too but it’s more a handgun round. I have a reloading set up for .223 as well.
What do you estimate your .223 reload cost per round is? How much would you have to spend for a decent setup to reload your own rounds? That sounds like something that I would be interested in.
 
CTC is often quite expensive compared to a gun shop or box sporting goods store. Military calibres are sometimes available as surplus , so can be cheaper. Hard to beat a .22 rimfire for inexpensive fun. The more "common" a caliber is , the more likely to find them on sale .
 
CTC is often quite expensive compared to a gun shop or box sporting goods store. Military calibres are sometimes available as surplus , so can be cheaper. Hard to beat a .22 rimfire for inexpensive fun. The more "common" a caliber is , the more likely to find them on sale .
Old dudes and/or widows are another good source of cheap guns and ammo. A lifetime of collecting followed by the realization that they will never be used again. Going to another shooter keeps the government from destroying them.
 
What do you estimate your .223 reload cost per round is? How much would you have to spend for a decent setup to reload your own rounds? That sounds like something that I would be interested in.

Difficult to say now as my set up is several years old and it’s also not bottom or top tier (not an automated set up and not just hand tools). I do it more for fun and reuse my spent brass but it is a lot cheaper than buying high quality rounds and comes a bit cheaper than mass produced stuff. Instead I can reuse lower quality brass rounds and take my time to upgrade them for consistency (size, trim etc etc). I can also just swap my dies and reload 38 special and .357 and 9mm which is all I use in addition to .22.

I would look for a Lee lever set up on sale with the basic equipment and go from there. You’ll need caliber specific dies as well. Look at the prices of powder and primers too. You can always upgrade the equipment as you go and used stuff is fine too. You can do it cheaper with something like a Lee manual hand loader but it’s going to be slower.
 
I’m considering getting my PAL but am having second thoughts after seeing the cost of ammo at Canadian Tire

No one with half a brain buys their ammo at CT or any other box store... and certainly DO NOT go to any box store like SAIL, Bass Pro or Cabelas for anything firearm related including advice.
There are lots of places that specialize in firearms who actually know what they're talking about.
 
Bolt action in .223 (NATO 5.56) is fun, pretty capable and cheaper to shoot.

.223 remington and 5.56 nato are not the same.
Dimentionally perhaps, but 5.56 ammo. is loaded to higher pressure.
5.56 chambers differ in throat length, to accommodate the higher pressure...
Practically speaking, its safe to fire .223 rem. in a firearm chambered as 5.56, but it's not necessarily safe to fire 5.56 in a .223.

ETA: you're not going to find commercially available bolt action rifles chambered in/marked as 5.56 NATO anyway and the only truly 5.56 NATO surplus ammo thatvwas ever avsilable has pretty much dried up.
 
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.223 remington and 5.56 nato are not the same.
Dimentionally perhaps, but 5.56 ammo. is loaded to higher pressure.
5.56 chambers differ in throat length, to accommodate the higher pressure...
Practically speaking, its safe to fire .223 rem. in a firearm chambered as 5.56, but it's not necessarily safe to fire 5.56 in a .223.

True that. My current rifles can fire both. My dies are .223.
 
No one with half a brain buys their ammo at CT or any other box store... and certainly DO NOT go to any box store like SAIL, Bass Pro or Cabelas for anything firearm related including advice.
There are lots of places that specialize in firearms who actually know what they're talking about.
Where is a good place to buy ammo? I use to get some cheap surplus from Marstar ( I think that’s their name) in Montreal but that was a long, long time ago.
 
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