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Gaoler said:
SIU cleared the case.
Civil suit launched and making its way through the courts.
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Send a hit squad out of territory, don't notify the locals, setup a confrontation and assassinate a guy and there are no criminal charges warranted. Why do we bother to waste money on SIU? It would be cheaper to rubber stamp paperwork and the outcome would rarely be different.
 
That setup warrants no criminal charges because stupid is not a crime .
Now should some folks up the ladder get a black spot on their record ? Yup . Will anything likely happen? Nope . You set up a raid WELL outside your jurisdiction, don’t advise the locals because they may be ‘in on it’ , kick a door in at a gun shop where you are “surprised “ to find a gunsmith holding a weapon and shoot him because while your yelling drop the weapon he has no clue WTF is happening, are you actually robbers ? Cops? Bike gang hitmen? This clown show was botched from the initial paperwork and is so much an everyday occurrence for not just TO Police . Family has multiple suits filed , the customer on site has a suit filed , it’s in the multi millions. Guess who pays that bill? Yeah , us again.


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'Unless Roger was fooling EVERYBODY and leading some kind of double life... The situation birthed by TPS was a complete sh_it show.
All they'd have to do is call him and he would have had the coffee on for a meeting/inspection.
Or... meet up with him any Tuesday Evening at BRRC.

Rodger's brother did an interview...
 
My current Nieghbour is retired TO police, he was in the special unit to keep an eye on the TO Police service . Own radio channels , phone lines with security against taps , almost a rogue agency things in TO in w seventies and eighties were that bad . Sad to see they still don’t get it .


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crankcall said:
My current Nieghbour is retired TO police, he was in the special unit to keep an eye on the TO Police service . Own radio channels , phone lines with security against taps , almost a rogue agency things in TO in w seventies and eighties were that bad . Sad to see they still don’t get it .


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They do get it. They are almost invincible. Code of conduct and law say one thing, in practice, the only major foible is public egg on face that can't be blamed on outside factors. Even that barely warrants a response. When it's been well known that a house cleaning is needed for decades and it never happens, the message is clear.
 
Gaoler said:
'Unless Roger was fooling EVERYBODY and leading some kind of double life... The situation birthed by TPS was a complete sh_it show.
All they'd have to do is call him and he would have had the coffee on for a meeting/inspection.
Or... meet up with him any Tuesday Evening at BRRC.

Rodger's brother did an interview...
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I only watched the first few minutes until the narrator says Kotenko sold the 2 customized guns to a "mystery buyer" who then sold it on the black market. Didn't Kotenko need to idenitfy the buyer by checking their ID/license before selling?
 
Relax said:
I only watched the first few minutes until the narrator says Kotenko sold the 2 customized guns to a "mystery buyer" who then sold it on the black market. Didn't Kotenko need to idenitfy the buyer by checking their ID/license before selling?
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The whole thing is a dogs breakfast and TPS missed very few opportunities to take the wrong path at every turn. Why would anyone take an expensive kotenko gun, file the serial number and sell it as a street gun? I doubt the street value is much above a Taurus bought at walmart.

While we will never get a thorough independent review, given the level of depravity shown by TPS, I highly suspect a dirty cop was feeling the world close in and made up stories and assassinated him to keep things under wraps. Even incompetence/gross negligence can't explain the actions of TPS.
 
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I only watched the first few minutes until the narrator says Kotenko sold the 2 customized guns to a "mystery buyer" who then sold it on the black market. Didn't Kotenko need to idenitfy the buyer by checking their ID/license before selling?
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If you listened further you would have heard why the buyer is a mystery...
'Brother alleges TPS is covering up.
They have the records.

I've bought a firearm from Rodger... He followed the law to the letter.
I witnessed Rodger school Halton police when they suggested he take custody of a guy's pistol after the guy was taken from the range to hospital... regulations had changed... HRPS wasn't aware.

He knew the law/regulations and i can't see him jeopardizing his business for a few hundred dollars by selling a couple of guns under the table.... 'Something a licensed dealer can't really do anyway without getting caught.
 
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Dickhead and the chipmunk just turned the heat up to 11. Owners of banned firearms have until March 31/26 to register what they have. After the government gets the list, they will decide who gets money and how much. Fund is capped at a few percent of the fair market value of the banned guns so presumably, they extort the vast majority of owners with the threat of a criminal record and loss of all firearm rights. All guns must be turned in or deactivated by Oct 30/26 or you are a criminal. The logistics of this are impossible.

All of these liberal dickheads are criminals. They see that they can't get a majority and may fall soon. They need to disarm the population as quickly as possible.

toronto.citynews.ca

Federal firearm buyback program to open Monday, with March 31 deadline to register

The Liberal government is slated to announce details of its national buyback program at a briefing in Montreal.
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GreyGhost said:
they extort the vast majority of owners with the threat of a criminal record and loss of all firearm rights. All guns must be turned in or deactivated by Oct 30/26 or you are a criminal.
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Empty threats...
The whole thing hinges on their belief or hope that Canadians will comply. If no one participates in the declaration phase the whole thing will collapse.
This is my wish... That no one logs in and gives the program the info it wants/needs to build their list of stuff to steal. They say it over and over... COMPENSATION IS NOT GUARANTEED. Read that as you may.
Those of us with previously "restricted" will have no choice but to surrender THOSE firearms... The gov't already knows who has those.
Every gun that went from non-restricted to banned.... The gov't has no idea who has them.

It's been a hell of a Saturday... Our prime minister suckin' Chinese communist's cock and gloating over their "new' world order" and Gary the goof and his c_unt-faced sidekick Provost gleefully raping Canadians of their property.
 
Gaoler said:
Every gun that went from non-restricted to banned.... The gov't has no idea who has them.
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Mostly true but the whole pre-auth to buy guns recently gives them another list to dig into (Gaoler wants to buy gun x, shop submits request to ottawa, ottawa approves all requests, Gaoler gets his gun, Ottawa bans the gun). I expect all of those people will get a letter/visit telling them to honestly and completely fill in the list of firearms under threat of prosecution and/or cancelling PAL.
 
GreyGhost said:
Mostly true but the whole pre-auth to buy guns recently gives them another list to dig into
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It does not.
All that process does is validate/confirm ones PAL is valid at the time and gives a 90 day window where any number of non restricted firearms may be transferred... or not transferred.
You could initiate this and then decide not to transfer anything...
Among private individuals... Who knows how many people bother.
Honestly... If I were to lend, give or sell a non restricted firearm to a licensed someone I knew, a friend, a buddy... Would I bother with this..?





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GreyGhost said:
I expect all of those people will get a letter/visit telling them to honestly and completely fill in the list of firearms under threat of prosecution and/or cancelling PAL.
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Already did back when they illegally "nullified" the registration certs for our ARs...
Into the shredder those letters went.
Point of order... They can't just "cancel" a PAL... There's a process written into the firearms act they must follow... Of course do they always follow the law?
The nullification fiasco showed us they do not.
 
GreyGhost said:
Mostly true but the whole pre-auth to buy guns recently gives them another list to dig into (Gaoler wants to buy gun x, shop submits request to ottawa, ottawa approves all requests, Gaoler gets his gun, Ottawa bans the gun). I expect all of those people will get a letter/visit telling them to honestly and completely fill in the list of firearms under threat of prosecution and/or cancelling PAL.
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What about the firearms lost or discarded (broke) when they were still classified as non-restricted. You can probably find it 4'-5' deep somewhere in the Burks falls dump because that is where we parted ways back in the summer of 2023.
 
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What about the firearms lost or discarded (broke) when they were still classified as non-restricted. You can probably find it 4'-5' deep somewhere in the Burks falls dump because that is where we parted ways back in the summer of 2023.
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I didn't say they still had the guns. I won't be surprised if they start forcing affidavits out of people. Adds cost, hassle and increases penalties for law abiding gun owners. Those all sound like priorities for the libs.
 
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