Vozz Rear Entry helmets

Interesting, but they lost me at the part about EMT's needing to scan a QR code (really? C'mon...) and lookup some website for "removal instructions" in the case of an accident.
 
Ah, it's Australian.
 
I think I would print removal instructions and stick em next to barcode, can't be too hard.
What if you're in a tunnel, or somewhere where there's no internet signal.
 
Pop two rubber bits out, unscrew screws. done.

Oh wait, what type of screws are they?
 
Im thinking that would be great for if you are in an accident. Rider can remain still on his back...head is supported...face is accessible. Not having to pull a snug bucket over a skull that may have a fracture.
 
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Love this concept, but they need a better release mechanism than screws in an emergency!
 
Sadz said:
Im thinking that would be great for if you are in an accident. Rider can remain still on his back...head is supported...face is accessible. Not having to pull a snug bucket over a skull that may have a fracture.
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I've never been able to land still on my back with my head supported and face accessible. I'm usually pretzeled up in a swamp after an unplanned dismount

My fear will be meeting the fireman that's never seen the lid and he figures the only way off is a gas powered recipro saw
 
Just wondering how it would fit with the HTA here as the HTA mandates that you must have your chin strap secured. Although the helmet is designed to work without a chin strap. I can see someone getting ticketed if the copper is having a bad day.
 
hedo2002 said:
Just wondering how it would fit with the HTA here as the HTA mandates that you must have your chin strap secured. Although the helmet is designed to work without a chin strap. I can see someone getting ticketed if the copper is having a bad day.
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I didn't even realize it was in the HTA anywhere. I just thought the helmet was mandatory. Today I learned.

104. (1) No person shall ride or operate a motorcycle or motor assisted bicycle on a highway unless the person is wearing a helmet that complies with the regulations and the chin strap of the helmet is securely fastened under the chin. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 104 (1); 2015, c. 14, s. 36 (1).
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Easy to put on. Easy to take off. Is there any other advantage?

I want to know if the claim about the wind is true. A quiet, stable helmet would make longer trips more pleasurable.
 
Did they mention how much the helmet weighs?
How does it perform in rain? As the wind pushes all the water towards the back of the helmet, I hope it doesn't channel into the helmet where it separates.
 
hedo2002 said:
Just wondering how it would fit with the HTA here as the HTA mandates that you must have your chin strap secured. Although the helmet is designed to work without a chin strap. I can see someone getting ticketed if the copper is having a bad day.
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Bottom design of helmet acts as chin strap by design + cops are reasonable people. No problem.
 
Not so, they would have to amend the HTA, just because a manufacturer produces an item that they say doesn't need a chin strap doesn't exempt it from the regulations. Think of it from another perspective when manufacturers started putting Airbags into vehicles it didn't negate the requirement and use of safety belts. I could see an officer stating that the helmet does not meet the current "standards" IE it does not have a chin strap and therefore, it is non conforming, (Similiar to when you mount a camera to the helmet). Given that every province requires, the use of a chin strap, under their version of the HTA the helmet may not even be approved for use by Transport Canada, (until they are satisfied by the manufacturer of it's design specs etc).

In the end I could see a court ruling that the helmets design is permitted but that is of little comfort after you have been made to park your bike roadside and walk. Not every cop is "reasonable"..lol I watched most of the video but I didn't hear anything about what certifications the helmet has, DOT etc. This too could be an issue.

inreb said:
Bottom design of helmet acts as chin strap by design + cops are reasonable people. No problem.
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hedo2002 said:
Not so, they would have to amend the HTA, just because a manufacturer produces an item that they say doesn't need a chin strap doesn't exempt it from the regulations. Think of it from another perspective when manufacturers started putting Airbags into vehicles it didn't negate the requirement and use of safety belts. I could see an officer stating that the helmet does not meet the current "standards" IE it does not have a chin strap and therefore, it is non conforming, (Similiar to when you mount a camera to the helmet). Given that every province requires, the use of a chin strap, under their version of the HTA the helmet may not even be approved for use by Transport Canada, (until they are satisfied by the manufacturer of it's design specs etc).

In the end I could see a court ruling that the helmets design is permitted but that is of little comfort after you have been made to park your bike roadside and walk. Not every cop is "reasonable"..lol I watched most of the video but I didn't hear anything about what certifications the helmet has, DOT etc. This too could be an issue.
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Maybe the chin cup would count. After all a jock strap and a protective cup are considered the same.
 
hedo2002 said:
Not so, they would have to amend the HTA, just because a manufacturer produces an item that they say doesn't need a chin strap doesn't exempt it from the regulations. Think of it from another perspective when manufacturers started putting Airbags into vehicles it didn't negate the requirement and use of safety belts. I could see an officer stating that the helmet does not meet the current "standards" IE it does not have a chin strap and therefore, it is non conforming, (Similiar to when you mount a camera to the helmet). Given that every province requires, the use of a chin strap, under their version of the HTA the helmet may not even be approved for use by Transport Canada, (until they are satisfied by the manufacturer of it's design specs etc).

In the end I could see a court ruling that the helmets design is permitted but that is of little comfort after you have been made to park your bike roadside and walk. Not every cop is "reasonable"..lol I watched most of the video but I didn't hear anything about what certifications the helmet has, DOT etc. This too could be an issue.
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oh you're probably right but otoh how do you equate airbags with seatbelts?
 
If the canadian market were bigger (or if similar wording existed in other markets), incorporating a fixed chin strap into the helmet would not be difficult for the manufacturer. Even though it provides little/no added protection, it should meet the letter of the law.
 
hedo2002 said:
Not so, they would have to amend the HTA, just because a manufacturer produces an item that they say doesn't need a chin strap doesn't exempt it from the regulations. Think of it from another perspective when manufacturers started putting Airbags into vehicles it didn't negate the requirement and use of safety belts. I could see an officer stating that the helmet does not meet the current "standards" IE it does not have a chin strap and therefore, it is non conforming, (Similiar to when you mount a camera to the helmet). Given that every province requires, the use of a chin strap, under their version of the HTA the helmet may not even be approved for use by Transport Canada, (until they are satisfied by the manufacturer of it's design specs etc).



In the end I could see a court ruling that the helmets design is permitted but that is of little comfort after you have been made to park your bike roadside and walk. Not every cop is "reasonable"..lol I watched most of the video but I didn't hear anything about what certifications the helmet has, DOT etc. This too could be an issue.
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sadly there will always be a cop that would pull that law out of the arse pocket. Instant prison cred 'dude, what you in for?' .... no chinstrap. Baddassss
 
hedo2002 said:
Not so, they would have to amend the HTA, just because a manufacturer produces an item that they say doesn't need a chin strap doesn't exempt it from the regulations. Think of it from another perspective when manufacturers started putting Airbags into vehicles it didn't negate the requirement and use of safety belts.

In the end I could see a court ruling that the helmets design is permitted but that is of little comfort after you have been made to park your bike roadside and walk. Not every cop is "reasonable"..lol I watched most of the video but I didn't hear anything about what certifications the helmet has, DOT etc. This too could be an issue.
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The "adjustable chin cup" as the dude called it could easily be written into the HTA - AND any road side officer would consider that adjustable chin cup to be a "securely fastened strap". It probably won't be sold here until it passes regulations anyway.

Also, airbags in cars were designed to be used in conjunction with seatbelts. Without a seatbelt, you're actually at risk of being injured from the air bag's deployment, as you would be thrown too far forward. Same deal if you sit too close to the steering wheel.
 
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oh you're probably right but otoh how do you equate airbags with seatbelts?
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I wasn't equating airbags with seatbelts. Merely stating that the requirement for seatbelts didn't go away simply because there was now a "different" safety feature. So in this case the manufacturer is stating that because the helmet fits more securely, then that negates the need for a chin strap, (which it likely does), but until the regulations are changed, under the HTA there is still a requirement for a chin strap.

Yes I do expect the chin cup may be considered as a "replacement" for the chin strap. But as another pointed out the manufacturer would have to go Transport Canada and the MTO to get that "approved" at which point the HTA could then be amended. But given how relatively small the canadian market is they may not want to go through the process. Just as not all bike manufacturers choose to get all models approved for sale in this market.
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