TWO TYPES OF RIDERS - the kind that's been down, and the kind that's goin' down!?????

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Zoodles95 said:
Man, I feel like such an idiot. I am wasting so much money on gear!

I have Velocity VR Pro gloves on order from the group buy and I picked up some Olympia Airglide pants I picked up from Tyler at Two Wheel today. Since I am a professional driver and ride like I want to keep my licence (which I do) then I do not need all of this expensive gear.

Besides, this is just like a sweater anyways...
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Going for the smurf look? :lmao:


As for the original topic i agree with MM. Yall posers don't know what you're doing...
 
I have only had 1 accident in 31 years of street riding and it was cagers fault. However I started roadracing at 17. You MM say you're not interested in track so RIP bro.
 
I only come here to read MM threads lately, and sell my patio furntiture. Anybody check out my patio set in the classifieds, sweet chairs with nice pads. You cant crash if your sitting on your patio.
 
I think might statistically the saying is true.

The vast majority of us will go down at some point. Either in a serious accident or in just allow speed drop. You are not impervious to making mistakes or errors if you ride long enough you will eventually take a spill. If you ride aggressively and take risk your risks are increased. Its simple statistics.
 
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Was amusing for a bit, not any more. MM has become a boil upon the genitalia of gtamotorcycle.com
 
I think you all have the meaning of the saying mixed up. As i heard it "There are two type of riders; those who have gone down, and those who haven’t" What i think we should all be taking from this does not mean you "crashed", I see it more as, those who have dropped a bike, and those who haven’t. I for one don't consider dropping a bike at a standstill a crash. Maybe your pulling it out of your shack/shed/garage, and trip on something down you go, with your bike. If your "Crash"(just you) well its own dam fault, if some one hits you, or does something stupid that ends up in you crashing well that sucks
 
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A motorcycle is inherently unstable.
Any environmental inconsistency can take advantage of that.
You can spend your entire motorcycle career keeping a careful watch for these inconsistencies, but don't expect your riding to be fulfilling.
To enjoy the freedom of two wheels, you have to put a little faith in the environment (the ground is solid, has a minimum level of grip, etc...); call it acceptable risk.
However: acceptable risk is still risk, and every time you ride, you face that risk.
Probability is also cumulative; the more you ride, the more 'total' risk you face.
Ride long enough, and eventually the conditions will occur (think, infinite monkeys for infinite time creating Shakespeare)


Mighty Mike said:
... BURN RUBBER NOT YOUR SOUL!...
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That "burning rubber" part... that puts a lot of faith in the environment. Accept the inevitability and move on.
 
x86ect said:
A motorcycle is inherently unstable.
Any environmental inconsistency can take advantage of that.
You can spend your entire motorcycle career keeping a careful watch for these inconsistencies, but don't expect your riding to be fulfilling.
To enjoy the freedom of two wheels, you have to put a little faith in the environment (the ground is solid, has a minimum level of grip, etc...); call it acceptable risk.
However: acceptable risk is still risk, and every time you ride, you face that risk.
Probability is also cumulative; the more you ride, the more 'total' risk you face.
Ride long enough, and eventually the conditions will occur (think, infinite monkeys for infinite time creating Shakespeare)
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Exactly..
 
Hey MM keep it coming. To those who are trashing you so be it.

If some bothered to understand the point behind the post they'd realize that Mike is saying he's been hearing far too much about single-vehicle accidents where it's driver related.

I AGREE.

I get spooked from time to time by some yahoo thinking he can lane-split pass me be doing 50kms over my speed. Like this same driver cannot take a corner a little too fast and find some imperfection in the road, or following too close behind a cager and hit something unseen.

Mike says slow down, ride to the conditions and your ability - maybe we can eliminate some of "our" guarantee!
 
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I agree with this. Not everybody crashes.
 
Mighty Mike said:
I CALL COMPLETE BS! Don't try and make yourself feel better about your accident by saying such ********.
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THE MIGHTY NO RIDE MIKE tilting at windmills. Because you know what everybodys' thinking.:rolleyes:
 
Where's the Benny Hill theme? Lol
 
Well conditions can change rapidly especially at this time of the year. This morning at 5:30 when I was getting ready to leave it was +2 and had rained but wasn't raining then, (Fenelon Falls area). I considered taking the bike. Well am I glad I didn't!!! By the time I got to Manilla it was 0 degrees and snowing like a b*. There was about 2 cm of fresh snow on the ground, (the roads were just wet not snow covered). But a couple of times the traction control on the cage indicated I lost traction. By the time I got to 48 and Sanford road it had stopped raining and the roads were dry.

So conditions can change dramatically. At least in the outer areas of the GTA. It is currently +2 with dry roads here in Thornhill, and they are saying sun should be out soon. Now would it have been advisable to continue to ride once I hit the snow?? Nope. I have been down before, when I crested a hill on a back road with gravel on the pavement and encountered a car totally in my lane. I had two choices hit him head on or dump the bike and roll out of his path. I chose to live. But even though I have been riding longer than MM has been alive I guess in his world I am a bad rider as I was involved in a single vehicle collison with my bike.

Oh well I can live with being labelled this by such an experienced rider. BTW MM I ride dirt bikes and spend virtually every weekend on ATV and trails which would make you soil your pants.
 
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ZOODLES - have you read the motorcycle accidents thread started by woblycat? MOST of the accidents there are single vehicle collisions. What does that have to do with other drivers or buses or whatever else you want to make up? I already stated in my first post that, i don't know how to be any clearer . wow

HOOLLLAAAA
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70% of all motorcycle accidents are at a surface street interesection where a car turns into the path of a motorcycle that has the right-of-way.
Research it. You're talking out your *** again.

If you are talking ONLY about single vehicle bike accidents, (that comprise a surprisingly small portion of bike accidents in general) then yes many will be from rider error....and could have been avoided if the rider were to make different choices.
 
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KJM said:
I agree with this. Not everybody crashes.
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Sure not 100% of riders crash but the majority will experience some form of accident in their riding career. Thats were the saying comes from. There are a few variations on it.

There are 2 types of riders. those who have drooped a bike and those that will.

In honesty its just a saying to express a common experience in the community it does not need to be taken literally or cross examined.
 
YamaMana said:
Hey MM keep it coming. To those who are trashing you so be it.

If some bothered to understand the point behind the post they'd realize that Mike is saying he's been hearing far too much about single-vehicle accidents where it's driver related.

I AGREE.

I get spooked from time to time by some yahoo thinking he can lane-split pass me be doing 50kms over my speed. Like this same driver cannot take a corner a little too fast and find some imperfection in the road, or following too close behind a cager and hit something unseen.

Mike says slow down, ride to the conditions and your ability - maybe we can eliminate some of "our" guarantee!
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you cleary missed his post where he said he likes to wheelie between cars.
 
Two50noob said:
Sure not 100% of riders crash but the majority will experience some form of accident in their riding career. Thats were the saying comes from. There are a few variations on it.

There are 2 types of riders. those who have drooped a bike and those that will.

In honesty its just a saying to express a common experience in the community it does not need to be taken literally or cross examined.
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Agreed, but many people preach it not unlike agatt. Ride more, worry less and keep it "rubber side down".
 
KJM said:
Agreed, but many people preach it not unlike agatt. Ride more, worry less and keep it "rubber side down".
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I have never heard anyone preach it. The times i herd it said were to make people feel better about their first incident or when someone is boasting about their skills.
 
TWO50NOOB - thats exactly what I'm saying, its a bs statement made by people that have crashed and want to feel good about the accident.

HOOLLLAAAA
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