Two-lane roundabouts coming to Caledon

I personally love the left turns from the right lane and right turns from the left lane that are extremely common in Toronto.

The only problem I ever had with roundabouts was when someone told me to "turn left" at one. They meant to take the 3rd exit, which is more logical wording to me. Go straight meant to take the 2nd one (assuming a 4 point round about). Got used to that wording quickly until I got into a 5 point round about and then I wasn't entirely sure which road lined up with the one I came from so I didn't know which one was "straight".

That's why a GPS will tell you to take the 3rd exit. They will never tell you to turn left. Tell your "someone" he's wrong and to tell you what exit number he wants.
 
Who's going to be the first to get a knee down?

:lmao:

Careful though, I learned the hard way when a roundabout I was playing with had sand =(
 
I don't know why roundabouts are not used earlier. They are more efficient than 4 way stops
 
I don't know why roundabouts are not used earlier. They are more efficient than 4 way stops

Could it be that a lot of drivers got their license out of a cookie box. Roundabout means panic. Turn left towards oncoming traffic.
Will be interesting to stand there with a camcorder and view not only their driving habits but the look on their faces.
Would be good for a comedy show.
 
Could it be that a lot of drivers got their license out of a cookie box. Roundabout means panic. Turn left towards oncoming traffic.
Will be interesting to stand there with a camcorder and view not only their driving habits but the look on their faces.
Would be good for a comedy show.
It would help if there's diagrams or instructions besides them. Plus if you just follow one rule you should be fine. Always give way to traffic on your left
 
It would help if there's diagrams or instructions besides them. Plus if you just follow one rule you should be fine. Always give way to traffic on your left

Diagrams would be good. Problem would be when they get out to look at them. Lol.
 
Because the rolling stops are still less efficient than roundabout.
 
I hope they stay in Caledon and don't appear in Brampton. It will be like a scrap yard full of gold corollas and camrys
 
Roundabouts -- single and two lane -- are all over the place here in KW. A couple of things in particular worry me about them:

a) When you're approaching the roundabout focus naturally tends to focus toward the left as you're scanning for on-coming traffic but pedestrians can enter their crosswalk from the right and unless your head's on a swivel you might miss them. This is especially true for cars on the inner lane of a multi-lane roundabout.

b) Once in a multi-lane roundabout you really need to be alert at the following entrances. If there is a car or van or truck in the inside lane people in the outside lane may not have a clear view of traffic already in the roundabout and may just continue to roll right into your path.

They're pretty efficient at moving traffic but people on bikes definitely have to have heightened senses when using them.
 
Roundabouts almost eliminate t-bone type accidents.But the number of fender benders goes way up.Most of the fender benders are caused by aggressive drivers not yielding and trying to pass on the right.Pedestrian traffic is a huge problem.Part of the problem is that drivers do not have to stop for people at pedestrian crosswalks at roundabouts.
 
In K-W they have also put the pedestrian crosswalk too close to the roundabout. If it's further back, drivers have more time to react and can pay attention to first the crosswalk and then the roundabout and then the next crosswalk (almost) separately.
 
In K-W they have also put the pedestrian crosswalk too close to the roundabout. If it's further back, drivers have more time to react and can pay attention to first the crosswalk and then the roundabout and then the next crosswalk (almost) separately.

True, but if they're located too far from the roundabout pedestrians will ignore the sidewalks and just enter the roundabout from the curbs.

Roundabouts do not strike me as particularly pedestrian-friendly constructs.
 
Roundabouts -- single and two lane -- are all over the place here in KW. A couple of things in particular worry me about them:

a) When you're approaching the roundabout focus naturally tends to focus toward the left as you're scanning for on-coming traffic but pedestrians can enter their crosswalk from the right and unless your head's on a swivel you might miss them. This is especially true for cars on the inner lane of a multi-lane roundabout.

b) Once in a multi-lane roundabout you really need to be alert at the following entrances. If there is a car or van or truck in the inside lane people in the outside lane may not have a clear view of traffic already in the roundabout and may just continue to roll right into your path.

They're pretty efficient at moving traffic but people on bikes definitely have to have heightened senses when using them.
'being alert' while driving, we can't have that, we need to make it easy for people to text and drive, so lower the speed limits and put stop signs so we have a chance to check Facebook on the way to work
 
True, but if they're located too far from the roundabout pedestrians will ignore the sidewalks and just enter the roundabout from the curbs.

Roundabouts do not strike me as particularly pedestrian-friendly constructs.
Pedestrians have to yield to vehicles; I really hope it stays this way, there was talk about changing the Highway Traffic Act so that vehicles must yield to pedestrians. I don't see how that will get implemented without some sort of stop-sign or traffic signal, which would completely defeat the purpose of a roundabout.

Some roundabouts have instructional signage, which instruct pedestrians to wait for a gap... make eye contact with drivers and point into the direction they're crossing.

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/Ottawa/ID/2547892960/
http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/Ottawa/ID/2547186388/

I can foresee possibly a pedestrian crossing further down the road, with a controlled traffic signal (red/yellow/green) or possibly one of these amber flashing amber lights with enforceable white/black 'Must Stop for Pedestrian Signs'.

Streetview: http://goo.gl/EX5e2t

Modern pedestrians, don't even use the crosswalk... they walk a few feet down the road and jay-walk across busy streets. I have a feeling they're going to walk toward the centre of the roundabout to get across.

Hopefully, this takes everybody out of the comfort zone and forces them to be cautious and careful. Way too many times I see pedestrians with their eyes' fixed front and not paying any attention to cross-traffic, this pompous attitude is why we have so many pedestrian deaths... their entitlement of right-of-way kills them.
 
Why not a manually controlled "red" light for pedestrians to use? I love the idea of roundabouts, but they are definitely not pedestrian friendly.
 
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