Speed camera update (Sept.11)

nobbie48 said:
What is taken into consideration with safety stats?

Since the ticket falls on the car owner it's a one-time financial hit. Pay the fine. If the ticket was issued by an officer the offense goes against the driver's record and attracts insurance premium increases. While the fines are above what I call pocket change, several hundred dollars to start, it hurts the lower income driver. If you've got a thicker wallet and your travel time losses cost you money it might pay to play fast.

If you get a thousand or two in tickets, possibly written off on your company car, but get to clinch a few more deals, sell an extra house or two, it could be worth it. It's time / money equation. In my case I took the 407 if it meant getting in another few hundred in service calls. It's the same deal. Pay extra to get somewhere faster.

If it was a roadside stop, there is an immediate time penalty negating the speeding advantage. Add in the ticket and subsequent insurance premium increase over several years and the roadside stop is more punishing.
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I'm now at the point that I ignore Waze's alerts about traffic cameras. With how often they get called out and how speed limits are being monkeyed with, I'm pretty much assuming they're everywhere now. They got me once. Could have got me twice if I wasn't normally a conscientious driver on residential streets. It makes me feel like the initial "Community Safety Zone" usual double-tap of fines is the whole point of the exercise.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
I'm now at the point that I ignore Waze's alerts about traffic cameras. With how often they get called out and how speed limits are being monkeyed with, I'm pretty much assuming they're everywhere now. They got me once. Could have got me twice if I wasn't normally a conscientious driver on residential streets. It makes me feel like the initial "Community Safety Zone" usual double-tap of fines is the whole point of the exercise.
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Douggie actually brought forward the bill to kill them. That's step one. Unfortunately, it's a stupid omnibus bill with lots of unrelated issues. I hate those as they are politics at its worst. Makes it easy to take shots at anyone that opposes a single section by pointing to the harms caused if the other sections don't get passed quickly.
 
GreyGhost said:
Douggie actually brought forward the bill to kill them. That's step one. Unfortunately, it's a stupid omnibus bill with lots of unrelated issues. I hate those as they are politics at its worst. Makes it easy to take shots at anyone that opposes a single section by pointing to the harms caused if the other sections don't get passed quickly.
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All that the Opposition Parties can do is delay, with debate. With a Majority it's a done deal. Then come the court battles with Brown and Chow.
 
oioioi said:
Crews are back at Parkside location today. Installing a new speed camera. This time they opted for the rectangular box sitting directly on the ground, not mounted on a pole.
There is also a CCTV camera mounted at the nearest light pole l to catch perpetrators.
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This location originally had one of those, they switched to the pole mounted ones (here and many other locations) as the ground level ones get disabled very easily with paint etc., and often. When they went to poles in this location they just kept making them beefier and they kept getting cut down (instead of just spray painted)... so back to the starting point I guess.

Or if they gave a crap about safety they could go to the separated speed bumps that are narrow enough for most emergency vehicles to pass but wide enough to slow personal vehicles (with the exception of motorcycles of course)--if this was about safety.
 
backmarkerducati said:
This location originally had one of those, they switched to the pole mounted ones (here and many other locations) as the ground level ones get disabled very easily with paint etc., and often. When they went to poles in this location they just kept making them beefier and they kept getting cut down (instead of just spray painted)... so back to the starting point I guess.

Or if they gave a crap about safety they could go to the separated speed bumps that are narrow enough for most emergency vehicles to pass but wide enough to slow personal vehicles (with the exception of motorcycles of course)--if this was about safety.
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The way that things are going I don't think it will be long before the camera proponents have reduced the school zone limits to 25Kmh (15MPH), like in many US jurisdictions, and cameraed the hell out of them.
 
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