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Re: Classic example of Lip Stick on a Pig

There are things that make a difference to the 125, not only on a power level, but also on a power to weight ratio, which on a sub 200lb bike is significantly more important than on a 400+ lb bike.

I'm sure there are things that make sense as basic mods on most bikes depending on what they are (gps power & mount on an adventure tourer, heated grips/seat on a touring rig, suspension & rubber on a track bike).

At the end of the day, people who like to mod their bikes will keep on doing it, and people who don't will continue to complain about it.

Ride your own ride and stop complaining about how my 125 pulls away from the lights better than yours.

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Re: What the EFF is going on here!

rofl ^ doesn't a new one cost like 5k?
 
RedDogDarren said:
Track bikes are valued as less because they have been crashed, fixed, crashed, fixed, have no lights, sometimes no bodywork, everything scarred, and abused to ratshit. I would think that to be quite obvious.
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ItIsWhatItIs said:
You are talking a very small part of the motorcycle market. Not everyone is shopping for a bike to be a weekend track warrior. Look through the classifieds, track bikes are worth less than street bikes. What does that say? If anything a modded bike is scaring away potential buyers, and not drawing them in as you say. There are plenty of ads boasting unraced, garage kept, never seen rain, and so on. Why is that? New like and original is what buyers are looking for. Yeah, this a bike forum, using vintage cars as an example of value reveals what creates value at auctions.
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One of you better call the guys over at Competition Systems and tell them that they are asking far too much for their Ex-Factory ZX-10R Superbikes.
 
caboose483 said:
One of you better call the guys over at Competition Systems and tell them that they are asking far too much for their Ex-Factory ZX-10R Superbikes.
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Why?

I guess I'll call them right away to tell them they don't have an average track bike.

Isn't it a bit silly to compare a used track day bike to an ex factory superbike?
 
RedDogDarren said:
Why?

I guess I'll call them right away to tell them they don't have an average track bike.

Isn't it a bit silly to compare a used track day bike to an ex factory superbike?
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Isn't it a bit silly to make blanket statements like...

RedDogDarren said:
Track bikes are valued as less because they have been crashed, fixed, crashed, fixed, have no lights, sometimes no bodywork, everything scarred, and abused to ratshit. I would think that to be quite obvious.
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caboose483 said:
Isn't it a bit silly to make blanket statements like...
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No. Because if you read it you will see that I said track bikes. Not ex factory superbikes. Sementics won't help you here.

If I said used cars aren't worth very much would you give the example of an original Shelby Cobra with 1 km on it to argue I am wrong?
 
RedDogDarren said:
No. Because if you read it you will see that I said track bikes. Not ex factory superbikes. Sementics won't help you here.

If I said used cars aren't worth very much would you give the example of an original Shelby Cobra with 1 km on it to argue I am wrong?
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Yes because that's a ridiculous and inaccurate blanket statement.

Who decides what is a track bike and what is race bike? At what extent of modification does a track bike become a race bike? How about the fact that someone who regularly has their bike on a race track is a lot more likely to be thorough with their maintenance? How about Jodi Christie's bikes? They arent factory. How about Jordan Szoke's 2010 Hondas? They were not factory built either.

FWIW, I know of more than a few bikes that were built exclusively for track day riding, not racing, that have been set up very well with good parts. Are they race bikes or track bikes?

Stupid blanket statements are stupid.
 
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