RedDogDarren
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To be polite, I thought my post was obviously a joke.
Passing a group etiquette?
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To be polite, I thought my post was obviously a joke.
RC8BOY
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Keeping up to more experienced riders in hope of learning something new is always a recipe for disaster. Especially if you're a new rider.
I've seen this happen first hand on the BRP.
Ride_Safe
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It is the legal obligation of a driver/motorcyclist at the front of traffic to move to the right when someone makes it clear that they want to pass them. Check the driver's booklet, it's in there.
If they don't move to the right, then THEY are the one being rude, not you.
If they don't move to the right, then THEY are the one being rude, not you.
SFer
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I guess it all depends on what everyone consides a new rider.
I said fairly new. As in less than 25,000km.
Never said I'd try to keep up, but I have been known to drag a knee if need be. Just prefer not to on public roads. I like having fun with a good safety zone.
Got a wife and 2 kids to make it home to and if I come home without the bike... I might aswell not come home
CruiserGoneSport
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Ok gotcha, sounds kind of sad really.
bboySushi
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What's the definition of slow? Some riders don't like getting tickets to add to their insurance, or getting their bike impounded. If someone wants to blast down doing 150 in second gear by all means but don't be hating on group of riders who are enjoying each other's company and riding normally.
Now if they are going under the speed limit...that's already a shame on any driver, and moreso on riders!!
Now if they are going under the speed limit...that's already a shame on any driver, and moreso on riders!!
Bottom line.. If I'm doing 300 in the left lane of Islington and a rider is coming up to me doing 310, it's my obligation to move over and let him pass. There are no gray areas in the rules of lane discipline. The only problem is that they aren't taught to Ontario drivers/riders.
As far as riding I’m probably one of these grannies I keep 10 - 20 over the limit most of the time. If i see a biker coming up faster than I want to travel I move over if it’s safe to do so. If a car passes me I usual blip the brake to get out of his way a bit faster as he’s besides me as well (especially if they doing it blind). Speeding excessively is not my riding style but I ain’t going to stop someone else having fun. Respect cuts both was on this.
Exactly.. The rules are clear on this one, just not being enforced, so we should focus on the social responsibility. With that being said, I've been taking it easy, but I always find a way to move over and allow for others to pass me.
Not true, you do learn a lot from riding with better more experienced riders, however the throttle will always be in your hand.
I learned from Riding with guys way faster than me at the time like D and Jay and others.
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Almost everyone i ride with is a better rider than me and most of the time they have been able to tech me somthing. Your point is fair you are always in controle of the bike and you should know your limits. Its ego that will get you in trouble when you riding with better riders than yourself.
RC8BOY
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This is what I was getting at. I'm sure a lot of people bacame better learning from faster guys. Unfortunately, not all riders have the maturity and hand control to know when to back off. Especially new riders.
If you're into the twisties already, I'd say there's no opportunity to pass safely unless you see a long enough straight ahead.
In this situation I'd just pull over to the side and wait a few minutes to clear some space ahead of you so that you can ride more at your own pace.
I have been in a situation where I came up on a group of 8 or so slower SS riders, but with about 3 car lengths of space right in the middle of the pack. I passed the back half of the group and tucked into the middle because of oncoming traffic. It ****** the group right off. They seemed quite indignant. A lot of arm gestures and engine revving. I didn't understand why, as there was more than enough space there. So I sat patiently until the next straight and blasted past the front of the group before the next corner. The guy at the front actually tried to race me into the corner, just to block me out, I imagine. But he braked way early and basically parked it before turn in, so there were no worries, at least on my part. As far as I could tell, it was a clean pass.
Moral of the story, avoid the drama and just stop and let the slower group move well ahead if they're unwilling to let you pass.
Life's too short to deal with discourteous people.
In this situation I'd just pull over to the side and wait a few minutes to clear some space ahead of you so that you can ride more at your own pace.
I have been in a situation where I came up on a group of 8 or so slower SS riders, but with about 3 car lengths of space right in the middle of the pack. I passed the back half of the group and tucked into the middle because of oncoming traffic. It ****** the group right off. They seemed quite indignant. A lot of arm gestures and engine revving. I didn't understand why, as there was more than enough space there. So I sat patiently until the next straight and blasted past the front of the group before the next corner. The guy at the front actually tried to race me into the corner, just to block me out, I imagine. But he braked way early and basically parked it before turn in, so there were no worries, at least on my part. As far as I could tell, it was a clean pass.
Moral of the story, avoid the drama and just stop and let the slower group move well ahead if they're unwilling to let you pass.
Life's too short to deal with discourteous people.
and the experience. that's the problem.
EGO again was that guys problem. Sounds like you have your ego in check. So you make good life choices.
awyala
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In all seriousness I am with Busa on this one. A pack of riders is not defined as a single vehicle and they have no right to act like one. I really don't care what they think. If they leave large (safe) gaps in their formation then that is legitimate road space for me and I am 100% entitled. I can dip in and out and they can stuff it if they don't like it.
I have seen these huge 40m long biker worms hold up cars and huge trails of other vehicles at stop signs, left turns, right turns, you name it, all because they feel they are entitled to form some sort of caravan at everyone else's expense, while they then go on to ride painfully slow.
There is no entitlement to stay in formation...that's just a preference, and if a gap is left, then there is no reason why another rider or car can (when safe) enter or break the worm.
To be honest I don't even see the point of these huge long caravans that put put along, never building up enough speed to even tap into 10% potential of their bikes, and effectively creating an unnecessary danger and risk, even at such low speeds, the pace all the while usually dictated by some ego maniac at the front. You know the type of rider I'm talking about, the one that takes a "police" like pleasure in controlling "his" ride, with all types of rules, print outs, appointed support riders, etc.
Group rides over a certain size are symptomatic of critical mass-like problems and actually defeat the purpose and nomenclature of a bike...."open road" my a$5!
vrus
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LOL, ever find out what group that was?
no i never bothered. i never saw them again after i passed them.
Griffin
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I got back from a ride to Vancouver and back a couple weeks ago. It was becoming annoying just seeing a herd of cruisers appear ahead on a nice stretch of highway. Many of them were pulling trailers and almost everytime a line of cars held up behind them. What was sort of funny was that sometimes I passed the same group 3-4 times. I'd pass them at light speed (usually the whole group) then need to stop for gas a few kms down the road. Get back on the road and have to pass them again. Stop for lunch and have to pass them again. Stop for the night and pass them again the next day once or twice. 
