Did it last night... still have to tidy it up and make it nice 
[video=youtube_share;drIWI6IKLvg]http://youtu.be/drIWI6IKLvg[/video]
[video=youtube_share;drIWI6IKLvg]http://youtu.be/drIWI6IKLvg[/video]
My version of ignition switch
- Thread starter Yorkee
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Did it last night... still have to tidy it up and make it nice
[video=youtube_share;drIWI6IKLvg]http://youtu.be/drIWI6IKLvg[/video]
Thats very cool. Is it locked into your IPAD? Any plans for it to work wireless?
Thanks!
Yep phone need to be plug in to start it, just like the key. Has been thinking of NFC but definitely wont go wifi and bluetooth. Both will drain my wimpy little battery in no time.
as for lock, the phone and the hardware has some kind of photocol that you can't just plug in any usb phone and expect it to work. It has to be the app I installed. I am using Android ICS instead of IPAD...
Yep phone need to be plug in to start it, just like the key. Has been thinking of NFC but definitely wont go wifi and bluetooth. Both will drain my wimpy little battery in no time.
as for lock, the phone and the hardware has some kind of photocol that you can't just plug in any usb phone and expect it to work. It has to be the app I installed. I am using Android ICS instead of IPAD...
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I'm yet to see an android device that will do NFC transmission, read yes, but not send
Latest bluetooth standard is extremely energy efficient
adamwest
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Feature requests... 1) add power converter so this thing can be wired inline to the moto batt., 2) make wireless; and then some other cool stuff like.. (control lights, horn, and perhaps and aux relayed in). Love to see the schematic for this. Perhaps I could help you "refine" it.
Cha0s00100
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you geek you ! ;P Well done.
That's a really cool idea, I like it. Are you planning to completely remove the stock ignition etc though, or will it be left intact? I'm just thinking, what happens if you lose your phone or forget it somewhere, or change to a non-Android one etc... would be rather screwed. 
Thanks for all the response!
nomad_man: I have poor experience with bt technology with Android ADK 2 years ago, (was using Android 2.1 at that time). but the BLE seems promising. My concern is it's relatively new and not enough support, development wise... that said, I will definitely look into it!
adamwest: I have been thinking of #1. but this is a "kitchen sink implementation" so I use what I have... if you see my "lunch box" carefully, you will notice I don't have any transistor and using relay over relay.
I don't have any schematic, but I am happy to share the how-to with you (minus the security part ) :
Basically it could be an ICS or honeycomb Android (the one with USB api), connect to a Andrino card using an USB otg cable, and using relays to amplify the signal on the card. As for the security, you can pretty much do it anyway you want as long as Android can talk to the Andrino card in the same language.
TekNinja81: I won't remove the stock ignition since my bike is in a relatively stock form, but I won't worry about completely removing it... as for losing the phone or forget it somewhere, you will experience the same "screw-up" if you lose your key now. Beside, if you lose your last back-up key, you are completely screwed. If you lose your phone, as long as you have the app, you can always buy a phone (or borrow your buddy's phone), install the app and start your bike again.
nfq: good idea, that said, disable bike in a long range means your bike need some kind of "phone-plan"... that would open a new range of technical problem.
nomad_man: I have poor experience with bt technology with Android ADK 2 years ago, (was using Android 2.1 at that time). but the BLE seems promising. My concern is it's relatively new and not enough support, development wise... that said, I will definitely look into it!
adamwest: I have been thinking of #1. but this is a "kitchen sink implementation" so I use what I have... if you see my "lunch box" carefully, you will notice I don't have any transistor and using relay over relay.
I don't have any schematic, but I am happy to share the how-to with you (minus the security part
) :Basically it could be an ICS or honeycomb Android (the one with USB api), connect to a Andrino card using an USB otg cable, and using relays to amplify the signal on the card. As for the security, you can pretty much do it anyway you want as long as Android can talk to the Andrino card in the same language.
TekNinja81: I won't remove the stock ignition since my bike is in a relatively stock form, but I won't worry about completely removing it... as for losing the phone or forget it somewhere, you will experience the same "screw-up" if you lose your key now. Beside, if you lose your last back-up key, you are completely screwed. If you lose your phone, as long as you have the app, you can always buy a phone (or borrow your buddy's phone), install the app and start your bike again.
nfq: good idea, that said, disable bike in a long range means your bike need some kind of "phone-plan"... that would open a new range of technical problem.
rmemedic
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Feature requests... 1) add power converter so this thing can be wired inline to the moto batt., 2) make wireless; and then some other cool stuff like.. (control lights, horn, and perhaps and aux relayed in). Love to see the schematic for this. Perhaps I could help you "refine" it.
Can I request a flux capacitor?
EngineerJoe
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Wicked cool... would love to know how to get into this sort of thing (eventually, I'd have it setup on my Jeep, Subaru AND SFV 650)
TheDirty
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A cheapo HC-05 module from dealextreme takes 8ma after pairing (well, that's what it says on the internet. I have not tested mine.) Match it to a microcontroller with decent sleep current and it should not be a significant drain on a motorcycle battery.
EDIT: You need an RPM feedback to tell when the engine is actually started so you don't need to hold down the button.
EDIT: You need an RPM feedback to tell when the engine is actually started so you don't need to hold down the button.
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Make sure it's wired to the motorcycle battery, ditch that 9v battery asap.
The new bluetooth stuff is super energy efficient.
If this little watch can run the display AND bluetooth for a week straight on one charge, it's gotta run for 2 years or more on a motorcycle battery
http://getpebble.com/
-Jamie M.
thought hold down the button with real-time feedback is the cool part
as for bt, sitting there is not the problem. listening is the part where energy being drawn. Most bt device won't be in ready or parable mode until it tell you to do so, and it will only last for 30 sec or so. in order to act as a remote-alike device, it has to be consistently listening. That's the part draining batteries.
Make sure it's wired to the motorcycle battery, ditch that 9v battery asap.
The new bluetooth stuff is super energy efficient.
If this little watch can run the display AND bluetooth for a week straight on one charge, it's gotta run for 2 years or more on a motorcycle battery
http://getpebble.com/
-Jamie M.
It is very promising and it could be the future. Right now, my galaxy S2 and Nexus don't support BLE. The most common device S3 supported BLE but I don't have a hand on those yet. The other popular one will be 4Gs, but fwik apple only limited bluetooth to audio and accessories. no data.
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