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SeeThruHead

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So I'm planning to do some longer trips on a new bike in the upcoming season. Lot's of road and offroad miles is likely.
I want to work my up to doing something majorly offroad like the "Great Continental Divide Ride" within the next 2 years.

Currently looking into trip planning and navigation research.
I've watched
in the video he's using maps.me app as well as the Garmin Montana.

When I'm doing research I keep coming across the Garmin Zumo motorcycle specific gps and it's features like routing that prefers/avoids curvy roads, hills, etc.

Then there is another group of people who pair their ipad to a Garmin inreach (which is good to have in case of emergencies anyway) and use apps like Gaia GPS
While gaia gps really does look like a better overall planning and gps tool than the Garmin. it's missing any motorcycle specific routing features.

I would love to hear if anyone has any experience with any of this gear/apps I've mentioned, or just generally what people are using for navigation on long tours, both on and off road.
 

I82l8

Well-known member
For off road navigation the Garmin Montana is better than the Zumo.
What you really want for off road is the ability to load tracks, which in essence are a line shown on your GPS and don't need to follow roads.
That is what Kevin and other off-road/adventure resources (such as Backcountry Discovery Routes (BDR) ) will provide, a GPX file which has the tracks.
It takes some manipulations for them to work on a Zumo, as the GPS wil try to re-route you onto known roads whereas with a Montana they will show up on your GPS and you just follow the line.
Note that you can't get turn-by-turn navigation with tracks, but I haven't found that to be an issue.
The Montana can also do turn-by-turn navigation just like a Zumo if you just tell it where you want to go and have the GPS guide you there.
I started with a Zumo and went to the Montana for that reason.
 

SeeThruHead

Member
For off road navigation the Garmin Montana is better than the Zumo.
What you really want for off road is the ability to load tracks, which in essence are a line shown on your GPS and don't need to follow roads.
That is what Kevin and other off-road/adventure resources (such as Backcountry Discovery Routes (BDR) ) will provide, a GPX file which has the tracks.
It takes some manipulations for them to work on a Zumo, as the GPS wil try to re-route you onto known roads whereas with a Montana they will show up on your GPS and you just follow the line.
Note that you can't get turn-by-turn navigation with tracks, but I haven't found that to be an issue.
The Montana can also do turn-by-turn navigation just like a Zumo if you just tell it where you want to go and have the GPS guide you there.
I started with a Zumo and went to the Montana for that reason.
Thank you! That's very interesting to hear. So either way a montano or gaia (both have great track capability so i've heard) would be better for those kinds of trips. I still wouldn't mind getting some automated help to find nice twisty roads though. But not enough to justify having both.

though
seems to suggest that zumo's can handle tracks
also track support is in the manual for the zumo devices as well?
did you have the current zumo models?
or was track functionality just not as good in some way?
 
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I82l8

Well-known member
seems to suggest that zumo's can handle tracks
also track support is in the manual for the zumo devices as well?
did you have the current zumo models?
or was track functionality just not as good in some way?
I had a Zumo 660 and yes, they can handle tracks, but just not as easily and efficiently as a Montana.
Keep in mind that I am referring to off road navigation, so there will be no roads showing on your GPS and for your GPS to navigate you onto.
With the Zumo I had to turn off automatic navigation and put it into off road mode
With the Montana, I just load the tracks from Basecamp and then in the GPS pick a color and set it to 'Show on map'.
Then I just display the map and follow the line showing.
 

SeeThruHead

Member
I had a Zumo 660 and yes, they can handle tracks, but just not as easily and efficiently as a Montana.
Keep in mind that I am referring to off road navigation, so there will be no roads showing on your GPS and for your GPS to navigate you onto.
With the Zumo I had to turn off automatic navigation and put it into off road mode
With the Montana, I just load the tracks from Basecamp and then in the GPS pick a color and set it to 'Show on map'.
Then I just display the map and follow the line showing.
Ah I see!
The new zumo's all have the same thing the montana has then.You can show any track on the map as a line in any color. Looks like they are closer now to the montana than they were with the 660.

Thanks!
 

J_F

gringo diablo
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google maps to rough out the route for planning days/overnight points
then final plotting and way points go into Tyre
then that is uploaded to a TomTom Rider GPS

the Rider has some motorcycle specific featurers
thrill route, avoid toll roads, avoid dirt roads etc

I like the thrill route option if I'm not in a hurry
takes to you to your preset way point
but selects twisty roads
 

sburns

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I use Maps.ME quite a bit on my mobile when I am out of my Cell service area, which is easy to do with Freedom. Very helpful I always going off my intended route. Nothing off road mind you. Sometimes the app doesn't always sense the correct direction you are facing though. I also wish the maps could be more visually simplified like Google, as MapME has extra visual info, which is helpful, but also distracting when you are just looking for road routes. Google maps also has a offline mode but is temporary and kinda a pain to select the area you want to download.
 

MacDoc

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Furkot is excellent for trip planning.


The interface a bit of a challenge but worth even for the trips it references.
 

SeeThruHead

Member
I just signed up for REVER.co and tried to plan a trip using Butler maps. Little did I know there are basically no butler maps for Canada. So I'll be getting a refund most likely. Though the application is actually quite nice.
 

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