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More authoritarianism Bill C-63
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bigpoppa
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CBC sure aint reporting on it.
Neither is toronto star
Have you read C-63?
bigpoppa
Well-known member
Did you?
Video explained it pretty well.
A lot of well intentioned censorship under the guise of "protecting xyz" or "stopping hate"
Yes, but not thoroughly.
Quite a bit of it.
The problem lies in the language and who gets to interrupt it.
What does that subsection say?
It stinks as bad as the definition of 'Assault rifle'. It's what every they want it to be at the time.
It gets worse....
You seem to be one of those people that would commit a hate crime. Life imprisonment for you......
Nothing to see here my ass.
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I've seen the concerning language..
I expect at least some of it will be challenged...
The courts will interpret it.
Edit.. I just noticed the last paragraph...
810 is about peace bonds.. I'm not sure how that "gets worse".. a lot of that already exists.
You're last sentence shows how exaggerated you're thinking is..
I expect at least some of it will be challenged...
The courts will interpret it.
Edit.. I just noticed the last paragraph...
810 is about peace bonds.. I'm not sure how that "gets worse".. a lot of that already exists.
You're last sentence shows how exaggerated you're thinking is..
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810.012 Directly links back to subsection 318,319 and 320.
Please explain how this is about peace bonds.....
I usually look to see what Michael Geist has to say about Canadian "digital" legislation and he has weighed in on it.
www.michaelgeist.ca
www.michaelgeist.ca
TLDR; Life imprisonment for hate speech is questionable, "Digital Safety Commission" will be vested with an alarming amount of power
My First Take on the Online Harms Act: Worst of 2021 Plan Now Gone But Digital Safety Commission Regulatory Power a Huge Concern - Michael Geist
After years of delay, the government tabled Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act, earlier today. The bill is really three-in-one: the Online Harms Act that creates new duties for Internet companies and a sprawling new enforcement system, changes to the Criminal Code and Canada Human Rights Act that...
www.michaelgeist.ca
Why the Criminal Code and Human Rights Act Provisions Should Be Removed from the Online Harms Act - Michael Geist
Having a spent virtually the entire day yesterday talking with media and colleagues about Bill C-63, one thing has become increasingly clear: the Criminal Code and Human Rights Act provisions found in the Online Harms Act should be removed. In my initial post on the bill, I identified the...
www.michaelgeist.ca
TLDR; Life imprisonment for hate speech is questionable, "Digital Safety Commission" will be vested with an alarming amount of power
Go to the actual criminal code...
look up section 810 (SURETIES TO KEEP THE PEACE)..
then look up 810.011 (FEAR OF CERTAIN OFFENCES)
Then tell me what your concern is with the purposed 810.12..
My concern is that you have nebulous definitions for an act that can be enforced because you might do them. With heavy penalty.
When you start adding the 'Fear of Offences' clauses, you best have good definitions of what those offenses are.
Just because something has been used before does not make it a good or reasonable idea.
For fear of delving into yet another political thread at a motorcycle forum (sigh), I wonder what all the people here irked about "internet policing" feel about Poilevre's plan to rollout digital ID's to restrict things like Porn...to start.
pressprogress.ca
I must have misheard when conservatives seemed all upset a few years ago when Digital ID's was a thing during a global public health emergency. Hmmm.
Conservative MP Says He Trusts Porn Companies Won’t Leak Digital IDs of Canadians Who Visit Porn Websites
Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives voted to introduce digital IDs for porn users
pressprogress.ca
I must have misheard when conservatives seemed all upset a few years ago when Digital ID's was a thing during a global public health emergency. Hmmm.
Always down for less government intervention, that includes Digital IDs for any reason.For fear of delving into yet another political thread at a motorcycle forum (sigh), I wonder what all the people here irked about "internet policing" feel about Poilevre's plan to rollout digital ID's to restrict things like Porn...to start.
Conservative MP Says He Trusts Porn Companies Won’t Leak Digital IDs of Canadians Who Visit Porn Websites
Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives voted to introduce digital IDs for porn users
I must have misheard when conservatives seemed all upset a few years ago when Digital ID's was a thing during a global public health emergency. Hmmm.
Seems ridiculous. I would imagine that affected sites would just block Canadian IPs.For fear of delving into yet another political thread at a motorcycle forum (sigh), I wonder what all the people here irked about "internet policing" feel about Poilevre's plan to rollout digital ID's to restrict things like Porn...to start.
Conservative MP Says He Trusts Porn Companies Won’t Leak Digital IDs of Canadians Who Visit Porn Websites
Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives voted to introduce digital IDs for porn users
I must have misheard when conservatives seemed all upset a few years ago when Digital ID's was a thing during a global public health emergency. Hmmm.
Why set up data containment for one small country? I certainly wouldn't trust it.
Or very well may not be.
Of course the conservatives will still vote for him regardless and take that gamble, because something something, muble, reasons.
The hyprocrisy is off the charts with this whole situation. A lot of cons were literally losing their minds about "Trudeaus Covid passports" a few short years ago (despite a lot of the laws being introduced by Ford, a conservative, but that's another story), now it's just silence, or excuses when presented with their desired new leader not only looking at something similar, but potentially far more heavy fisted. Or they just red-herring the whole situation and then change the topic.
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Uninformed voters, plenty to go around whatever colour you subscribe to.
PP will get the Con vote because he largely represents what matters to a 'majority' of conservative voters. Plenty think he's too left and plenty think he's not far right enough, but he's further right then anyone else in the commons so that's where the chips will largely fall. He isn't the first leader to clue in on; 'you only have to be right of the Liberals to start splitting the centrist vote, but you don't have to go all Book of Job on people to get there'. He is however getting his message across better than his predecessors.
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