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ZX600 said:
man, you need to take a chill pill - At which point did I say or do any of that?

As a matter of fact, I have many friends that are instructors and inspectors, I do have respect for what they do. To me checking my blind spot every 5 seconds with an exagerated head gesture so the inspector can see my head moving is what I refer to as awkward, I have said it before, If I rode on a daily bases the same way I had to ride in order to pass the exam I would be road kill by now.

Here stay on and argue with yourself. Peace out
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I'm chilled, and peaceful. I realize the exaggerated motion is a bit of overkill, but a normal blind spot check doesn't require exaggeration. It's your last statement- that if you continued to ride that way you would be road kill by know - that implies that what is taught, and what is tested, is irrelevant and potentially dangerous. The scoring criteria includes many of the things that you believe should be in there, based on your recent posts - yet you're still dismissive of it.
How does that help new riders in any way? It's that advice that keeps coming up - do what you have to to pass the test, then forget it.
By the way, blind spot checks only have to be done immediately before turns or lane changes. If you're doing that every 5 seconds you're on a hell of a ride ;)
 
Emefef said:
I'm chilled, and peaceful. I realize the exaggerated motion is a bit of overkill, but a normal blind spot check doesn't require exaggeration. It's your last statement- that if you continued to ride that way you would be road kill by know - that implies that what is taught, and what is tested, is irrelevant and potentially dangerous. The scoring criteria includes many of the things that you believe should be in there, based on your recent posts - yet you're still dismissive of it.
How does that help new riders in any way? It's that advice that keeps coming up - do what you have to to pass the test, then forget it.
By the way, blind spot checks only have to be done immediately before turns or lane changes. If you're doing that every 5 seconds you're on a hell of a ride ;)
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yes, do what you have to pass the test, then once you have the piece of paper, go out in the real world and ride legally the way you should in order to be safe!

You seem to think I believe the course is useless and that is a mistake in your part, I think the course can be useful and what they teach you is very relevant but during the test, the manner in which you have to ride so the inspector can notice what you are doing (i.e exaggerated head gestures) has nothing to do with having the skills to operate a motorcycle safely.

Stop preaching on me and giving me your jargon on what checking blind spots is all about, 30 years of riding here, no need for any of your BS!
 
ZX600 said:
yes, do what you have to pass the test, then once you have the piece of paper, go out in the real world and ride legally the way you should in order to be safe!

You seem to think I believe the course is useless and that is a mistake in your part, I think the course can be useful and what they teach you is very relevant but during the test, the manner in which you have to ride so the inspector can notice what you are doing (i.e exaggerated head gestures) has nothing to do with having the skills to operate a motorcycle safely.

Stop preaching on me and giving me your jargon on what checking blind spots is all about, 30 years of riding here, no need for any of your BS!
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You're the one that used the hyperbole to make your point. You don't need to check your blind spot every 5 seconds to impress the examiner. You need to do them at the right time, which I think you already know and agree with. You're the one that points out the error boxes on the test sheet as being gospel without an understanding of the actual scoring criteria.

The point I've been trying to make, apparently unsuccessfully, is that in support of this statement: "yes, do what you have to pass the test, then once you have the piece of paper, go out in the real world and ride legally the way you should in order to be safe!", the courses teach, and the test evaluates, many of the tips that you've already given. Other than exaggerated mirror checks, (agreed that is awkward) the rest of the stuff is common sense and does have a lot to do with operating the bike safely on the road. If you read the scoring criteria or went through a course instead of reading the test sheet and hearing only anecdotal recounts of what examiners told people, you would recognize the objectives and the methods are right in line with the advice that you've been giving, yet you treat the test as "rite of passage" that can or should be ignored and forgotten afterward.
 
Emefef said:
take a course. you'll find that examiners at the courses are likely more "understanding" of traffic speed.
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+1 they actually told us to go 110+ on the 401... they know that if you drive 100 you will get run over by a truck. lol

I just took the course 2 weekends ago... i dont regret spending the money... i learned alot... i walked away with a 0 markable errors test :D... even when the examiners were being audited by the MTO that day.
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