starboy869
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Looking to buy my first bike
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:scratch: he's not my protege, maybe you can probe him deeper?
Thanks again for all the response guys. I've always liked sports bike - no other specific reason. I was looking at a few for $2500 - $2800 in hopes that I would get it for the first year, something like this:http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/...0r/1140273001?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true I just hoping someone who had owned one before would have some feedback. I don't want any of the other 250s as they are too small, and will prob jump into a 500cc+. Thanks again guys.
Canadian Rider
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I am actually selling my Ninja 250 if that's something you are considering, being a fellow member id sell it to you at a good price. Cheapest bike there is for insurance and its mint
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?requestSource=b&adId=1136821425
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?requestSource=b&adId=1136821425
Smarter move and take your time.
You've liked LOOKING at a sports bike.
There is a reason the more upright naked and street fighter styles are popular.
Have you gone into a dealer and sat on say an SV650
then try a FZ-07
There is a world of comfort difference in that seating position difference.
You can check any prospective bike here
http://cycle-ergo.com
This was your original "look at " - the Hyosung ..
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Rode with 2 people that had hyos. One guy had a spare bike for parts. Fuel line burst on a ride. Luckily no fire. Theres more but it takes too long to type. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. As for the parroting I've seen 3 hyos on the road. 2 had issues and the third I didn't know the owner. Not the best odds there. Don't hear 2/3 ninjas or cbrs tossing parts mid ride..
Also the spare engine guy has been trying to sell his since last summer. No takers
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Also the spare engine guy has been trying to sell his since last summer. No takers
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I have a Ninja 250 for sale too....but if you really want the Hyo go for it, I heard that you can take their 600 engine and swap it right into the 250 frame. Boom...you have a 600 for the insurance price of a 250 
I heard that you can take their 600 engine and swap it right into the 250 frame. Boom...you have a 600 for the insurance price of a 250
Until your insurance company cancels you on the spot for misrepresentation if they find out, or worse yet (and the more likely scenario), you ever need them.
Just sayin'.
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Ok. For the OP or anyone in the same boat, if getting into motorcycling is something you want to do, avoid the Hyosomethingwillbreak.
Or if you prefer to look at a motorcycle or fiddle with it or take it apart, by all means, go for it.
But if you really want to ride, and get some experience and enjoy it, get something small displacement and relatively common.
You can find plenty of entry level rides that suits your style and needs. Used has plenty to offer and at a reasonable price.
If you can't afford it, then save up. While saving, research cost for riders course, insurance costs. Cost of a
Bike and gear etc.
The Kawi/yammie/Honda 300/250 offerings are a great start. Each have their strengths and weaknesses.
Try them out after the riders course. See what feels right.
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Or if you prefer to look at a motorcycle or fiddle with it or take it apart, by all means, go for it.
But if you really want to ride, and get some experience and enjoy it, get something small displacement and relatively common.
You can find plenty of entry level rides that suits your style and needs. Used has plenty to offer and at a reasonable price.
If you can't afford it, then save up. While saving, research cost for riders course, insurance costs. Cost of a
Bike and gear etc.
The Kawi/yammie/Honda 300/250 offerings are a great start. Each have their strengths and weaknesses.
Try them out after the riders course. See what feels right.
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Generally good advice but is age/experience dependent.
New young riders have to consider insurance first and small cc is better ( 50 cc first year will be least expensive over time )
Riders like the OP I'd say look more to intermediate and something that is easy to flip -
Don't get hung up on looks....2-3 hours in a cramped position will give you a whole new perspective. Get into the dealers and sit on bikes.
For those never having ridden....take an off road course or even an off road weekend
Don't blow your budget on brand new top end gear. There is great stuff around used. Boots, gloves and helmet are important for and need good fit but if you take your time you can find it all on Kiji ( or in my closet
)....knee armor is cheap and effective.
Jackets and pants there is some flex.
Kiji is loaded with fine gear from people who never got going in the sport.
My Joe Rocket mesh jacket I bought for $50 6 years ago is still going strong and taken a few hits off pavement
Try and get a rider to mentor your purchase ideas a bit or discuss them on here.
New young riders have to consider insurance first and small cc is better ( 50 cc first year will be least expensive over time )
Riders like the OP I'd say look more to intermediate and something that is easy to flip -
Don't get hung up on looks....2-3 hours in a cramped position will give you a whole new perspective. Get into the dealers and sit on bikes.
For those never having ridden....take an off road course or even an off road weekend
Don't blow your budget on brand new top end gear. There is great stuff around used. Boots, gloves and helmet are important for and need good fit but if you take your time you can find it all on Kiji ( or in my closet
)....knee armor is cheap and effective.Jackets and pants there is some flex.
Kiji is loaded with fine gear from people who never got going in the sport.
My Joe Rocket mesh jacket I bought for $50 6 years ago is still going strong and taken a few hits off pavement
Try and get a rider to mentor your purchase ideas a bit or discuss them on here.
Honestly loving the feedback, more than i'm used to from car forums. I just wanted to get opinions on the Hyusongs as I wanted to go look at a few but didn't want to waste the sellers time. I'm trying to make time this weekend to go the motorcycle show and try out different bikes to get a feel of what I like. Once again thanks guys for all the feedback.
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I have owned a Hyosung before. It was my get back into motorcycling bike after a 8 year dry spell. Got it for 1500 bucks had to fix the fork seals and breaks to safety. With proper maintenance it lasted me 3 years of extended season riding and commuting 55km one way to work, then I gave it to my brother for another year before he crashed it. Still runs strong just needs new handle bars and plastics. I'm thinking of keeping it as an extra bike so my friends who want to learn how to ride can have a bike to jaunt around on. Insurance was cheap for me even when I was 30. I was paying $450 a year on it then. Fun bike. I had very little problems with it. It's a great bike for learning on, very capable for highway, and does not make you feel crunched up like the ninja does. I upgraded to an FZ -07 back in 2014 because I desired more power for longer rides down to the US, and low insurance.
Now having said that. If you don't have $ to toss around Ie under $2000, that you don't care to recover than don't get a hyosung. Get a larger cc bike. Your insurance will still be high for awhile but it will drop because of your age. Test out bikes and their ergos to see what you will be comfortable on.
Hyosung's are great bikes to learn on and develop your skills on as if you drop them it's no real big deal and won't cost a hell of a lot to repair. You do take a chance of getting a lemon more so than other manufacturers, but that's part of buying from an entry level manufacturer, and if you are willing to put the time into fixing it, you will learn more about the machine and bikes from first hand experience.
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Now having said that. If you don't have $ to toss around Ie under $2000, that you don't care to recover than don't get a hyosung. Get a larger cc bike. Your insurance will still be high for awhile but it will drop because of your age. Test out bikes and their ergos to see what you will be comfortable on.
Hyosung's are great bikes to learn on and develop your skills on as if you drop them it's no real big deal and won't cost a hell of a lot to repair. You do take a chance of getting a lemon more so than other manufacturers, but that's part of buying from an entry level manufacturer, and if you are willing to put the time into fixing it, you will learn more about the machine and bikes from first hand experience.
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Great to see someone with actual experience owning the bike commenting.
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Always good.
My sister bought a 30' twin engine boat 3 years ago. It was equipped with what was referred to as being black-sheep model Mercruiser engines (470's, for those who know boats) that weren't without their issues. Initial comments online were "run away screaming!"...because that was "the thing" to say. Because everyone said it.
Then the actual 470 owners came along and said "Yes, those engines have had issues in their past, but almost always for X, Y, and X reasons, so do A, B, and C to avoid those situations and you'll have no problems.
3 years and many, many hours of cruising later, no problems. Great little engines actually, they sip fuel for pushing along such a huge boat. Never regretted not listening to the "run away screaming" crowd when in reality they were just parroting what others were saying with little to no actual experience.
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Don't get mad when we say "we told you so".
Garbage bikes imo.
Buy a kawi/honda 250. Better resale and proven solid.
I browsed 250/300/500's for a few weeks on kijiji, I'm gonna chip in my $0.02 on the market of them (I still haven't ridden any of them, so can't say anything about experience/ownership):
CBR250R - way overpriced imo. I remember seeing a couple under $3k, but for the most part the majority of sellers are looking for at least ~$3.5k for a bike that to me seems no better than a Ninja 250.
Ninja 250 - Huge range of quality/price. Easily available for less than $3k, most at that price will have at least cosmetic damage but there definitely were without any. I think depreciation isn't quite done with the Ninja 250 yet, but getting there.
CBR300R - good luck finding one used, pretty rare
Ninja 300 - way more available than the CBR300. But all the reviews I watched/read about these two seemed to indicate the Ninja is a better bike overall than the CBR. Expect to pay at least $4k for one.
EX500 - I thought these would be WAY more available, turns out they're not actually as common as I thought. You can get running examples for less than $2k, definitely faster in a straight line than anything else in this post. Needless to say, I think depreciation is pretty much done on these bikes.
CBR500R - like the CBR300R, pretty rare on the used market
GS500E/F - slightly different flavor, wide range of price/quality on these too
With that all said, I ended up buying a lightly used Ninja 300.
- Supposed to be much better suited for the highway, which is part of my commute
- ABS & FI. I know both of these are deemed unnecessary by some, but I wanted both. Had to pay a premium for them, but you gotta get what you want
- I got a decent deal on it, I don't expect to take too big of a hit when/if I decide to move on
- I think the Ninja 300 looks way better than the 250
Edit: And on insurance - of course gonna be different for everybody but for me (brand new rider, over 25, Toronto, no tickets in the last 5 years) the premiums for a 250 vs 300 were almost the same. The 500's were slightly more expensive, but by less than $500/year. For less than $50/month, i don't think the insurance is a deciding factor on choosing a 250/300 over a 500.
CBR250R - way overpriced imo. I remember seeing a couple under $3k, but for the most part the majority of sellers are looking for at least ~$3.5k for a bike that to me seems no better than a Ninja 250.
Ninja 250 - Huge range of quality/price. Easily available for less than $3k, most at that price will have at least cosmetic damage but there definitely were without any. I think depreciation isn't quite done with the Ninja 250 yet, but getting there.
CBR300R - good luck finding one used, pretty rare
Ninja 300 - way more available than the CBR300. But all the reviews I watched/read about these two seemed to indicate the Ninja is a better bike overall than the CBR. Expect to pay at least $4k for one.
EX500 - I thought these would be WAY more available, turns out they're not actually as common as I thought. You can get running examples for less than $2k, definitely faster in a straight line than anything else in this post. Needless to say, I think depreciation is pretty much done on these bikes.
CBR500R - like the CBR300R, pretty rare on the used market
GS500E/F - slightly different flavor, wide range of price/quality on these too
With that all said, I ended up buying a lightly used Ninja 300.
- Supposed to be much better suited for the highway, which is part of my commute
- ABS & FI. I know both of these are deemed unnecessary by some, but I wanted both. Had to pay a premium for them, but you gotta get what you want
- I got a decent deal on it, I don't expect to take too big of a hit when/if I decide to move on
- I think the Ninja 300 looks way better than the 250
Edit: And on insurance - of course gonna be different for everybody but for me (brand new rider, over 25, Toronto, no tickets in the last 5 years) the premiums for a 250 vs 300 were almost the same. The 500's were slightly more expensive, but by less than $500/year. For less than $50/month, i don't think the insurance is a deciding factor on choosing a 250/300 over a 500.
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I don't get why ppl think this is the worst thing.
The worst part is the fact that you're stuffing an engine with around 5x the power of the original into a frame designed to handle 5x less.
Insurance will be the least of your worries if a catastrophic failure occurs and stuff starts flying off.
