latest on the new Safety Cert Drive On program...

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I got my new to me bike safetied at Studio Cycle on Tuesday. They replied to me over the weekend while they were closed telling me to drop it off at 10:30 AM on Tuesday when they were open. It was along my way to my first job of the day so I couldn't say no to that!

I know a customer said they got their bike safetied at Powersports TO, and they actually got an email from the ministry (?) letting them know the status update (it failed because her bike was a disaster lol).

I didn't get any kind of email from the ministry (is that a thing?) but since I was 45 minutes away from Studio around 1 PM, called them, told them where I was at, and they said come on over it'll be ready, and it was.

I was given a paper to bring with me to the ministry because apparently sometimes the ministry's system doesn't update very quickly. Not sure if it did or not but after an hour line up at Service Ontario, I was out with the plate and the bike in my name.

8 year old motorcycle with 17k km, so not too new, but I definitely gave the bike a good check out myself to make sure all was well before bringing it in... because I'm really cheap so I wasn't going to risk having to pay twice for a safety lol
 
adri said:
I got my new to me bike safetied at Studio Cycle on Tuesday. They replied to me over the weekend while they were closed telling me to drop it off at 10:30 AM on Tuesday when they were open. It was along my way to my first job of the day so I couldn't say no to that!

I know a customer said they got their bike safetied at Powersports TO, and they actually got an email from the ministry (?) letting them know the status update (it failed because her bike was a disaster lol).

I didn't get any kind of email from the ministry (is that a thing?) but since I was 45 minutes away from Studio around 1 PM, called them, told them where I was at, and they said come on over it'll be ready, and it was.

I was given a paper to bring with me to the ministry because apparently sometimes the ministry's system doesn't update very quickly. Not sure if it did or not but after an hour line up at Service Ontario, I was out with the plate and the bike in my name.

8 year old motorcycle with 17k km, so not too new, but I definitely gave the bike a good check out myself to make sure all was well before bringing it in... because I'm really cheap so I wasn't going to risk having to pay twice for a safety lol
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Weird with the email thing. Safetied my bike 2 months ago in Mississauga, and received 2 emails from the ministry, before even mechanic called me to come and get the bike. No paper copy, everything was already in the system at Service Ontario.
You don't pay twice, you have 10 days to fix deficiencies and come back for re-inspection.


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adri said:
I got my new to me bike safetied at Studio Cycle on Tuesday. They replied to me over the weekend while they were closed telling me to drop it off at 10:30 AM on Tuesday when they were open. It was along my way to my first job of the day so I couldn't say no to that!

I know a customer said they got their bike safetied at Powersports TO, and they actually got an email from the ministry (?) letting them know the status update (it failed because her bike was a disaster lol).

I didn't get any kind of email from the ministry (is that a thing?) but since I was 45 minutes away from Studio around 1 PM, called them, told them where I was at, and they said come on over it'll be ready, and it was.

I was given a paper to bring with me to the ministry because apparently sometimes the ministry's system doesn't update very quickly. Not sure if it did or not but after an hour line up at Service Ontario, I was out with the plate and the bike in my name.

8 year old motorcycle with 17k km, so not too new, but I definitely gave the bike a good check out myself to make sure all was well before bringing it in... because I'm really cheap so I wasn't going to risk having to pay twice for a safety lol
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Do they have a flat-rate price for safety, or is it by time (and what did yours come out to)?
 
cruiserider said:
You don't pay twice, you have 10 days to fix deficiencies and come back for re-inspection.
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Great for us, bad for the shops lol. Imagine a bike fails for drum brakes and the owner goes home, replaces them, and brings it back to the shop where they have to take the back wheel off AGAIN at no additional charge? Yikes.

Relax said:
Do they have a flat-rate price for safety, or is it by time (and what did yours come out to)?
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I was told $250 before I dropped it off, and I paid $250 when I picked it up.
 
Sochi said:
nah, see my other post - Master Mechanic $145 after tax. just make sure your bike is stock and you good to go :)
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I'm cheap but... do I want a car tech touching my motorcycle though? Which car tech is the one doing the work, is it the lowest paid/newest kid who's never wrenched on a bike before?

I've seen the utter disregard for correct retorquing of bolts on my truck. If I close my eyes I can hear the sound of the car tech using an impact to put my motorcycle's brake calipers back on, followed by his voice saying "oops" after her's stripped the threads lol

I'm not a fan of paying 3x what I used to pay either, but if I'm having a car tech work on my bike, I better be saving A LOT more than $100 for that....
 
adri said:
I'm cheap but... do I want a car tech touching my motorcycle though? Which car tech is the one doing the work, is it the lowest paid/newest kid who's never wrenched on a bike before?

I've seen the utter disregard for correct retorquing of bolts on my truck. If I close my eyes I can hear the sound of the car tech using an impact to put my motorcycle's brake calipers back on, followed by his voice saying "oops" after her's stripped the threads lol

I'm not a fan of paying 3x what I used to pay either, but if I'm having a car tech work on my bike, I better be saving A LOT more than $100 for that....
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You assume the bike tech takes more care and attention. That isn't universal. Flat rate does not reward doing things the slow and careful way.
 
GreyGhost said:
You assume the bike tech takes more care and attention. That isn't universal. Flat rate does not reward doing things the slow and careful way.
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Yup, one of my 998's velocity stacks has a broken tab on it from a Ducati master mechanic prying it off instead of twisting. The guy's generally pretty good, but my jaw hit the ground the last time I removed the tank to figure out why my fuel economy dropped from 48 MPG to only 37, stranding me on Mississauga Rd at the Caledon Brick Works. The stack was flopped over sideways, and the attached shower injector was spraying onto the airbox walls instead of down into the throttle body.

But good help is hard to find, as they say, so I'd stil use him if I had to or was feeling really lazy. Nobody's perfect.
 
GreyGhost said:
You assume the bike tech takes more care and attention. That isn't universal. Flat rate does not reward doing things the slow and careful way.
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Nah, I think you're mistaking where I'm coming from. Maybe I didn't express myself well enough.

It isn't about assuming car techs are competent/incompetent and/or bike techs are competent/incompetent. It's that, I bet everyone here already knows at least one motorcycle mechanic that we trust to work on our motorcycles, right? So we don't have to make any assumptions. We can just take it to a guy who's already done right by us for years.

OR, we can save $105.... by taking it to a place where
- we don't know who's touching our bikes
- we don't know what their experience working on motorcycles is
- we don't know when the last time they even worked on a motorcycle is
- we don't even know if they feel comfortable working on motorcycles or if their boss just said "here, figure it out"

That's a lot of unknowns to sign my motorcycle up for taking it to a car shop to save $100. I'm cheap, I get super excited inner joy when I get a deal, but, to me, versus taking the bike to the motorcycle guy who's already been doing right by me for years, to save a $100 one time cost, this doesn't seem like the kind of deal I want to take.

Totally get what you're saying about flat rate though! Especially as the guy who's bike needed nothing for safety because I checked it over myself before bringing it in. It sucks paying the same as the next guy who brought in a total POS that was a PITA to work on, but, I'm not about to tell someone else how they should run their business, so, that's their call. Sometimes we lose.
 
adri said:
Nah, I think you're mistaking where I'm coming from. Maybe I didn't express myself well enough.

It isn't about assuming car techs are competent/incompetent and/or bike techs are competent/incompetent. It's that, I bet everyone here already knows at least one motorcycle mechanic that we trust to work on our motorcycles, right? So we don't have to make any assumptions. We can just take it to a guy who's already done right by us for years.

OR, we can save $105.... by taking it to a place where
- we don't know who's touching our bikes
- we don't know what their experience working on motorcycles is
- we don't know when the last time they even worked on a motorcycle is
- we don't even know if they feel comfortable working on motorcycles or if their boss just said "here, figure it out"

That's a lot of unknowns to sign my motorcycle up for taking it to a car shop to save $100. I'm cheap, I get super excited inner joy when I get a deal, but, to me, versus taking the bike to the motorcycle guy who's already been doing right by me for years, to save a $100 one time cost, this doesn't seem like the kind of deal I want to take.

Totally get what you're saying about flat rate though! Especially as the guy who's bike needed nothing for safety because I checked it over myself before bringing it in. It sucks paying the same as the next guy who brought in a total POS that was a PITA to work on, but, I'm not about to tell someone else how they should run their business, so, that's their call. Sometimes we lose.
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Timing is a big issue for the good techs. Most people don't want to wait a month plus for a safety. The good techs are understandably rammed.
 
Relax said:
Yup, one of my 998's velocity stacks has a broken tab on it from a Ducati master mechanic prying it off instead of twisting. The guy's generally pretty good, but my jaw hit the ground the last time I removed the tank to figure out why my fuel economy dropped from 48 MPG to only 37, stranding me on Mississauga Rd at the Caledon Brick Works. The stack was flopped over sideways, and the attached shower injector was spraying onto the airbox walls instead of down into the throttle body.

But good help is hard to find, as they say, so I'd stil use him if I had to or was feeling really lazy. Nobody's perfect.
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Is this master duc guy someone that I may have used?
 
Awan Auto Inc., 17 Munham Gate, Scarborough, (416) 856-2663

Not a moto shop, so perhaps less likely to sell unnecessary parts and repairs? $125 plus tax.

I know two guys who have had their bike certified there in the last week. They left as happy customers. Quick, efficient, no fuss.
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