Laser alignment service available?

Sunspark

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Hi, I was just wondering, do any shops have a jig set up to do laser beam alignment like cars have?

From what I have read, the hatch marks on the frame can't be counted upon to be accurate and that there are several places where alignment can be improved upon.

-Alignment of rear sprocket to front sprocket
-Alignment of rear wheel with front wheel
-Alignment of rear wheel to frame

The old way of doing it used string. But it would be neat to roll it into a jig and measure the beam spacing with a double check on the sprockets.
 
There's nothing wrong with string. People have build large buildings using string method. Why try to make life complicated?
 
DIY.......and here is how

Quick and easy way to determine if your frame is straight
I've been concerned about making sure the frames on my bikes are straight or not?
After trying the string method and finding it not only difficult to perform but unsatisfactory, I decided to try something different
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The basic idea is to create a reference plane that's (almost) parallel to the plane that cuts the bike into two lengthwise and then take measurements from this plane.
This reference plane is simply the plane of the laser beam that's positionned on the RH side of the engine case after removing the contact breaker cover.
I'm using the GS 1000/1100 bikes as an example here but it must be possible on other bikes.
The laser beam I'm using is the Profi CAT laser chain alignment tool.

The process is the following:
1) you shine the laser beam to the rear of the bike and measure the distance between the beam and the rear disk surface.
2) you measure the distance between the outside surface of the disk and the wheel center to compute the distance between the laser beam ( i.e. the reference plane) and the rear wheel center.
3) you shine the laser beam to the front of the bike and you measure the distance between the front disk and the beam.
To get an accurate measurement you must measure the distances at two points on the disk: one ahead of the fork stanchions and the other behind the fork stanchions.
You try to equalize the two readings by turning the bike's handlebar left or right.
4) you measure the distance between the outside of the disk and the wheel center to compute the total distance between the reference plane ( the laser beam) and the front wheel center.

You are almost there except that it's not garanteed that the measurement plane is parallel to the bike's longitudinal plane of reference.
To lift that uncertainty you need to measure the distance of the reference plane to the center of the engine.

We now have three points of which we know the coordinates:
Rear wheel center, Engine center and Front wheel center

By computing the line that goes from the rear wheel center through the engine center, we can determine if it crosses the front wheel center.

In the case of my GS 1000 skunk I came up with the following:
Rear wheel center taken as the origin of the X and Y axis
Engine center: Y1=a*X1
with Y1= 5 mm and X1 = 860 mm ( the distance between the rear wheel spindle and the engine crankshaft)
The gives a=0.0058 rad or .33° of angle between the bike's center plane and the reference plane.
By projecting this line out to the front wheel the distance ought to be :
Y2=0.0058*(860+660)= 8.23 mm
660 beeing the distance from the crankshaft to the front wheel spindle.

On my bike I measured 8 mm.

In other words my frame is perfectly straight
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Here are a few pictures:

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John Kat

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Laser is just easier for the operator but ot doesn't necessarily mean it's a better alignment
 
Hi, I was just wondering, do any shops have a jig set up to do laser beam alignment like cars have?

From what I have read, the hatch marks on the frame can't be counted upon to be accurate and that there are several places where alignment can be improved upon.

-Alignment of rear sprocket to front sprocket
-Alignment of rear wheel with front wheel
-Alignment of rear wheel to frame

The old way of doing it used string. But it would be neat to roll it into a jig and measure the beam spacing with a double check on the sprockets.

FYI you can only pick one of those things to make perfect. Ideally they should all be the same but if something is just a tiny bit off then you won't get all 3 perfectly aligned. If your bike isn't bent, just line up the rear sprocket with the chain and front sprocket then everything else should be good.


This is what I use. No need for lasers.
 
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