toronto.cbr
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You guys are ridiculous. I asked ONE question about tire size and you guys jump on me. Im not rob ford, no need to hate.
KTM RC390 Leaked to world...from Canada!
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I wouldn't take it personally =)
This place would be very boring and no different than stackoverflow if these things didn't happen.
This place would be very boring and no different than stackoverflow if these things didn't happen.
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I hope so.
Sounds like a challenge thrown out!
I'd pay to see this just for fun....although I am still waiting for a fight that was supposed to happen for charity b/w GTAMers....
Do we need to wait until spring until the asphalt warms up?
Forgot to add...nice bike! Can't wait to see it in real life.
daught
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No, I'll do it now on wet street car tracks. Pansies use the "only on the track" card.
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XenoVibe
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I think its more like 75lbs lighter than a CBR500 and 9hp more for another 4g? psh.
what ??? lol
eljay
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kickstartt
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The question is...
Will it wheelie...?
Will it wheelie...?
espro
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Hahaha, what? That's the price of the 690!
Snobike Mike
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The 690R is a lot more than $9K, is the Duke only $9k here in Canada?
There is no pricing yet, so the 4G comment is just made up. Common sense would dictate that if KTM is marketing the bike at 390 to avoid insurance costs, then they won't have insane pricing. If they make it too expensive, people will just buy 600s.
It's a relatively simple single.
CBR is listed at 434lbs, ninja at 35hp (claimed). Even 9hp is 25% more. That's actually significant on a bike that light.
Sounds like a cool bike, ugly front end though [headlight area]. I like that bike manufacturers are bringing smaller displacement bikes to Canada BUT [someone clarify, as I could be wrong] when they [little bikes] flood the market wont insurance companies increase rates for all little bikes?
I only think like this because as people move from the 600, 750 and 1000CC SS market over to the 125, 250, 300, 390cc standard market the insurance companies might be missing out on money. Then coming up with some sort of line like 'well everyone is crashing lower displacement bikes and we looked around the market, determined they are expensive to replace, and need to increase insurance bla bla bla.'
Thoughts? Or have I consumed way too much coffee this morning?
I only think like this because as people move from the 600, 750 and 1000CC SS market over to the 125, 250, 300, 390cc standard market the insurance companies might be missing out on money. Then coming up with some sort of line like 'well everyone is crashing lower displacement bikes and we looked around the market, determined they are expensive to replace, and need to increase insurance bla bla bla.'
Thoughts? Or have I consumed way too much coffee this morning?
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daught
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No... DUH
The puny 150 rear tire will loose grip before it can get get it up.
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It's distinctive. they want to get away from the Yahondasaki look, which, aside from colors, all look more or less the same these days.
I think it has a nice rear-end.
Bigger SS bikes crash more, have more insurance claims. Insurance is about risk avoidance. If more people buy smaller bikes, and crash less, they make more money. If fewer people avoid buying bikes because of insurance rates, no one makes money. The number of total riders on the road in Ontario has been plummeting.
The bracketing of power-to-weight and ABS makes sense in Europe. We are not that progressive here.
eljay
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They are entry level rides. The current market share is not static. The manufacturers are hoping to grow the market share (see Honda Grom), not just steal a piece of the current pie, ie get more people riding. Entry level rides have lower insurance now, fact.
More riders means more insurance customers. There isn't a limited amount of insurance available, so increased insurance demand will not necessarily lead to higher prices (partly because a larger insurance pool will diversify the risk). From the insurers perspective, 2 people paying $700 a year on their 'safer' 250s (what I paid at the start) is better than 1 person on a 600+ paying 1400 (what I pay now, and I have one write off in my bag too). Basically, all else equal, more is better for insurance. For now, insurance price and lack of accessibility keeps people out at the margins. Expanding the margins brings more people and theoretically better insurance. But who knows, maybe insurers won't see it that way...
More riders means more insurance customers. There isn't a limited amount of insurance available, so increased insurance demand will not necessarily lead to higher prices (partly because a larger insurance pool will diversify the risk). From the insurers perspective, 2 people paying $700 a year on their 'safer' 250s (what I paid at the start) is better than 1 person on a 600+ paying 1400 (what I pay now, and I have one write off in my bag too). Basically, all else equal, more is better for insurance. For now, insurance price and lack of accessibility keeps people out at the margins. Expanding the margins brings more people and theoretically better insurance. But who knows, maybe insurers won't see it that way...
