Kids on the back?

[RichinOville]

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Top case (with or without a backrest) for the win!!!
I can't remember the last time that I worried about anyone falling off the back.
My son has said that he has even fallen asleep back of my FZ1 before.

As for sidecars, the law is exempted regarding sidecars. I've put a couple of pillows to stuff in the sides of a small child, for a short parking lot joy ride. So that he didn't get bashed side to side too badly.
I've seen people put seatbelts in the sidecar (not recommended, for the same reason as tying them to a regular bike). I have also seen peeps put roll cages on the side car for the youngins.
As far as driving a sidecar with a passenger in the sidecar AND a passenger on the bike. The person in the sidecar better weigh a great deal more than the person on the back of the bike. Or the bike could become dangerously unstable on any right hand turns.

 

[Wingboy]

I don't have a problem with folks taking a little one "around the block" for a little thrill.Yesterday i saw a black VStrom filtering thru traffic (90kmh) on the 86 in Waterloo.The little girl was about 8 yr old and was holding onto his jacket with the right hand and had her left hand on the top of the ff helmet that was about 8 sizes too big.The helmet kept tipping back and the chin strap was pulling on her head backward at about 120kmh.The little one prolly said that it was fun.She will never know how easy it would be for her to have become traction for a Dodge.

 

[coyo]

As for sidecars, the law is exempted regarding sidecars. I've put a couple of pillows to stuff in the sides of a small child, for a short parking lot joy ride. So that he didn't get bashed side to side too badly.

Sidecar would be the best of both worlds IMHO.

I don't have a problem with folks taking a little one "around the block" for a little thrill.Yesterday i saw a black VStrom filtering thru traffic (90kmh) on the 86 in Waterloo.The little girl was about 8 yr old and was holding onto his jacket with the right hand and had her left hand on the top of the ff helmet that was about 8 sizes too big.The helmet kept tipping back and the chin strap was pulling on her head backward at about 120kmh.The little one prolly said that it was fun.She will never know how easy it would be for her to have become traction for a Dodge.

The little parking lot ride or around the block is one thing, but the situation you saw makes me shudder.

 

[beverage]

Could always look into getting one of these shipped over: http://urbanriderlondon.blogspot.com/2010/07/motorcycle-scooter-child-seat-now-in.html
"The products are designed and manufactured in Germany in accordance with EU regulations." It doesn't strap them to you or the bike, but provides back and side support (with you to the front), so they can't simply fall off the bike. The seat itself is attached to the bike.

Another link: http://www.stamatakis.de/e-index.htm and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FLvNQeZCQE

 

[nakkers]

Rick,

It's folks like this that end up resulting laws in place to protect us from ourselves. It's crazy. I've seen it too. There is common sense and it's just not common to some. Unreal!!!

I don't have a problem with folks taking a little one "around the block" for a little thrill.Yesterday i saw a black VStrom filtering thru traffic (90kmh) on the 86 in Waterloo.The little girl was about 8 yr old and was holding onto his jacket with the right hand and had her left hand on the top of the ff helmet that was about 8 sizes too big.The helmet kept tipping back and the chin strap was pulling on her head backward at about 120kmh.The little one prolly said that it was fun.She will never know how easy it would be for her to have become traction for a Dodge.

 

[Wingboy]

Rick,

It's folks like this that end up resulting laws in place to protect us from ourselves. It's crazy. I've seen it too. There is common sense and it's just not common to some. Unreal!!!

I'm not a violent person whatsoever.But i really wanted to smack the guy.The most precious thing in a persons life is his child.All i could see was a baby in grave danger,and visions of my own flashed into my head while watching that scene.My daughters are 29 now.Here's a pic when they were 9.

And here's a new pic.They are still my babys. (i'll prolly have to delete this one,be nice guys!)

 

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[Malks]

I have taken both of my kids for rides on my bikes starting when they were 7 or 8 years old; they are now 23 and 30. The obvious requirements are that your child can place both feet solidly on the passenger footrests, follow your lead when leaning in corners and know to hang on at all times. A properly fitting helmet, long pants, jacket and gloves were also mandatory before I would let them ride. Most of my rides with my kids were less than 100km and I was never worried about them falling asleep. My last few bikes have all had a top-box with backrest, which gives them more support and reduces the concern of them falling off the back.

I was never so happy when Bill 117 failed to make it to law. That Private Member Bill by Liberal MPP Helena Jaczek from Oak Ridges-Markham would have made it illegal for any child under the age of 14 to be a passenger on a motorcycle in the Province of Ontario. The whole thing came about because of a worried mother who did not want her ex to take their child for rides on his motorcycle. Instead of working this out between them, she complained to her MPP who then attempted to include this prohibition in the nanny-state laws of this Province.

 

[starboy869]

However we need to be a nanny state. The above story with the girl that was 8 and a helmet 5x too big. Does she know better? no. Does the parent know better? Probably not but should.

The person who saw that should've called it and reported it. Maybe teach the parent a lesson and save her life one day. Image crashing or getting hit with a helmet that's way too big?

 

[Acadian1974]

Biggest issue with kids on the back will always be the wing-nut parent. It's the parents that have have consider all the variables (their child's attention span, maturity, physical condition etc.), and unfortunately there are many that cannot make the appropriate call. I once had a father show up to a training site to visit his eldest who was taking the course, he had his youngest on the back of his bike... loose helmet, tee shirt, shorts and all. His eldest had been talking about his hockey league over lunch so I asked the father if the youngest played as well, "Of course!" he said. "Do you let him out onto the ice without the right equipment?" was my next question.

 

[unL33T]

falling asleep is a real concern. My Dad used to ride with a guy who's first wife had died that way. He had a harley with no backrest and went to ask her a question at a stop light and she wasn't there. He never felt anything. I can't imagine how horrible that would be. I know that he had a version of the buddy belt for his second wife that connected his Wife to him somehow so that in the event of her falling asleep, she wouldn't be able to fall off. Would provide good piece of mind if nothing else.

I need one of these for my gf. She's fallen asleep on the back on an F4i before. Guy she was riding with was riding pretty aggressively, too, and she still fell asleep.

 

[krrakt]

Hey, I started taking my boy on my bike last year when he was seven, as has been said the feet need to reach the pegs. Other than that I got him a leather jacket, good gloves and a proper helmet. Since I drive a sport bike, he puts his hands in my pockets and I can feel him hanging on. My kid loves going for rides, when I get him from school on my bike he thinks he is the coolest kid in school. http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...oung-ones-for-rides&highlight=child+passenger here is my thread from last year..best,

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