jacket alterations

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unL33T said:
I was thinking the same thing. Velcro would be even worse. Unless he just wants it to keep his jacket from showing off a plumber's crack? But it's not going to holdthe jacket down in any kind of slide.
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For this particular jacket the plumber's crack is what I'm trying to solve lol :booty:. I'm not going to the track with this jacket it's just my easy cruising jacket.
 
NOcageRus said:
For this particular jacket the plumber's crack is what I'm trying to solve lol :booty:. I'm not going to the track with this jacket it's just my easy cruising jacket.
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Well consider this as well,, the more you pull down the back of the jacket,, the more it will choke you! That is what the stretch panel above the waist prevents.So you may gain in one area and loose in another.
 
Bickle Racing said:
first,, lets define the two. A full 360 zipper is designed for a crash. It makes a two piece a one piece. Is it as good as a one piece no. But it is better and more practical for some riders. You can remove the jacket at your destination and is much more accomodating. A one piece outside the track can get difficult.
The second zipper is a shorter one usually about 12 inches and is simply a draft zipper. It just stops the wind from blowing up your backside. So it has no real mechanical safety design to it.
Some track day providers allow it,,, most do not.
Now as far as holding up in a crash for a 360 zipper. I have never seen anyone hurt bad becasue of a two piece. I have seen many wrecked and the zippers destroyed. But they did their job during the crash. So they will work and if the suit is designed as a pant /jacket set even better. But if they are mismatched,, the protetcion is reduced in most cases. The over lap of the jacket over the pants is designed to cover and protect the zipper. So that is a very important design factor.

hope this helps
John
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Good insight. Thanks John.
 
Bickle Racing said:
The second zipper is a shorter one usually about 12 inches and is simply a draft zipper. It just stops the wind from blowing up your backside. So it has no real mechanical safety design to it.
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I didn't know that, and always thought that zipper was there for (limited) protection, albeit a lot less than a 360 zipper. Makes sense, and also makes me want to buy a proper leather jacket and matching pants even more this year -- Currently I just have my JR Alter Ego jacket and pants with the 12" zipper that I bought when I started riding a year ago.

While we are somewhat on the topic, how well do higher-tier brands actually hold up in a crash situation, aka is Alpinestars or Dainese really worth the money over Icon, Teknic, Speed & Strength, etc? I'm currently considering both the Alpinestars Celer and Atem, and I'm ok with the money, if the protection is there as well.
 
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conundrum said:
I didn't know that, and always thought that zipper was there for (limited) protection, albeit a lot less than a 360 zipper. Makes sense, and also makes me want to buy a proper leather jacket and matching pants even more this year -- Currently I just have my JR Alter Ego jacket and pants with the 12" zipper that I bought when I started riding a year ago.

While we are somewhat on the topic, how well do higher-tier brands actually hold up in a crash situation, aka is Alpinestars or Dainese really worth the money over Icon, Teknic, Speed & Strength, etc? I'm currently considering both the Alpinestars Celer and Atem, and I'm ok with the money, if the protection is there as well.
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Well, that's a million dollar question.
First off,, it has to fit. So spend some time and try everything on. Also take a back protetcor or put one on if you plan on using one. Sit on a bike,,for at least 10-15 minutes. No bike to sit on,,go some where else. You're buying it to ride with,,,so sit and get comfortable.
All the products today are not what they were ten years ago. That is fact. So the best have come down a bit. So look for fewer panels,,and double stitching. So if you see a seam and you do not see any other stcitching lines,, that's single stitched. So double is better.
What you will get with the better stuff like Dainese is better patterns. They get the better pattern makers and leather cutters. So you see a better fit with the higher ends. Which does not mean the lessor lines won't fit you well. It kind of depends on your build.
But typically,, yes the better stuff crashes better. But again,, every crash is different. Stay away from Kanagaroo,,,or any other bling crap. Simple is better.

John
 
NOcageRus said:
For this particular jacket the plumber's crack is what I'm trying to solve lol :booty:. I'm not going to the track with this jacket it's just my easy cruising jacket.
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I would not use velcro if you are trying to do the two loops of material under your belt. Velcro will catch on everything and it'll look like you are picking your bum. Snaps would still be awkward but easier to attach. If your GF is willing to assist you in dressing and undresssing then you have no problems.

You could also use a piece of elastic between the jacket attachment and the snap, so that there is some give. This would make it easier to attach as well as provide some give while riding, making it more comfy.

You could simply sew two wide belt loops into your jacket, so that when you ride you must thread your belt through your pants as well as your jacket. This would be pretty secure but a pain to do. You would also have to ensure that your pant belt loops do not overlap with your jacket belt looks. Double stitched leather would be plenty strong.

Alternately you could get a longer jacket or a more upright bike. These last options are vastly more expensive.
 
Bickle Racing said:
...Stay away from Kanagaroo,,,or any other bling crap. Simple is better.
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John, I've not worked with kangaroo but have read that kangaroo is much stronger than cow for the same thickness. It is certainly a couple times the cost. Have you seen bad things happen to suits made of kangaroo?
 
STARSHIP said:
Bumping an old thread... Need a pair of textile BMW riding pants altered (too long).. Any suggestions as to where to have them done.
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Does the knee armour fit you? If the knee armour is too low on your leg, simply shortening the pant leg will not protect your knees.

Post the model of your pants and I'll try to see how hard this will be.
 
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