37 hp to 195hp
Help me choose, MV F4 or HP4 or 1199 Panigale R
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37 hp to 195hp
The ninja250 is actually less than that. It feels slower than the NSR150 that i've ridden.
May I ask why the F4 is out? just wondering?
It's somewhat worrying that you keep using an NSR150 as a benchmark
Tons of issue with electronic control (fueling, drive by wire and traction control). I only did research online. Since its been more than 2 yrs , i believe MV cant fix the issues.
redridernl
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This!!!
Shaman
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I believe they'll fix it... all their bikes are software upgradable with the 2013+ equipment on them. I've heard that owners can do the updates themselves, even. The reason I say that it's possible is that the Rivale and the new Dragster are apparently nearly perfectly fuelled and the TC/etc. is working reasonably well. I can only think that it will get better and that technology will be moved to the other bikes. That being said there is more to the story than just software and it's possible that the F4 in particular has an issue with head/intake surging that software can only blunt - I DO NOT KNOW THIS, DON'T TAKE THAT AS A FACT OR EVEN A RUMOUR, just thinking in text.
Seems like every magazine review I've read re:MV in the last couple years say it's a pretty good machine BUT, and then goes on to list issues that would automatically remove MVs from wish the list. I can't imagine the ownership experience be that great in light of the premium price.
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Ontariomystic
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The 2014 MV's are apparently way better in the fueling and electronics than previous years. But buy whatever turns your crank.
From last review I read :
MV Agusta engineers apparently spent more time specifying settings than tuning settings because, with few exceptions, none of the settings work as intended. MV Agusta reps explained that TC intervention is informed by pre-programmed "grip curves" calibrated for "street tires and street conditions;" in our experience rendering the system essentially useless—dangerous even—at the racetrack. MVICS cut power at the most inopportune times, when traversing bumps, changing direction, or picking up the throttle at a downhill corner apex—where it presumably misinterpreted the combination of increasing wheel speed and closed throttle as wheelspin. When the manufacturer's rep says it's best to ride the bike with traction control deactivated, that's a clear sign the system isn't ready for prime time. Ironically, even though it has the strongest brakes, the F3 is the only bike here without ABS. Given how glitchy the other electronics are, though, this is probably a good thing.
Read more: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/comparisons/the_upper_middle_class_mc_comparo/#ixzz2vKrqWebi
Another point for the RSV4: if you change tire size or profile, you can, straight from the dash, enter a calibration mode which will optimize the APRC to the new tires. On'y one that does this.
MV Agusta engineers apparently spent more time specifying settings than tuning settings because, with few exceptions, none of the settings work as intended. MV Agusta reps explained that TC intervention is informed by pre-programmed "grip curves" calibrated for "street tires and street conditions;" in our experience rendering the system essentially useless—dangerous even—at the racetrack. MVICS cut power at the most inopportune times, when traversing bumps, changing direction, or picking up the throttle at a downhill corner apex—where it presumably misinterpreted the combination of increasing wheel speed and closed throttle as wheelspin. When the manufacturer's rep says it's best to ride the bike with traction control deactivated, that's a clear sign the system isn't ready for prime time. Ironically, even though it has the strongest brakes, the F3 is the only bike here without ABS. Given how glitchy the other electronics are, though, this is probably a good thing.
Read more: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/comparisons/the_upper_middle_class_mc_comparo/#ixzz2vKrqWebi
Another point for the RSV4: if you change tire size or profile, you can, straight from the dash, enter a calibration mode which will optimize the APRC to the new tires. On'y one that does this.
He's not doing track though, he's playing it safe and just riding street...
I would imagine that most people wouldn't put a $20,000 bike on the track and risk crashing it. I know I wouldn't. I did all my track days on a bike that was worth less than $5000, the most I am willing to risk. I'm sure most Porsches, Ferraris and so on will never see a track day.
I saw quite a few nice street bikes at a track day last year, just because your on a track doesn't mean you need to give %110. I personally wouldn't take my street bike to the track though, I have a hard time with not trying to go faster all the time.
It's a shame that most SS bikes aren't used for thier intended purpose. I'd never buy another SS for the street, it just doesn't make sense.
It's a shame that most SS bikes aren't used for thier intended purpose. I'd never buy another SS for the street, it just doesn't make sense.
