Help me choose, MV F4 or HP4 or 1199 Panigale R

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油井緋色;2134696 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_SBKkNUPmc

I don't mind sharing; in case anyone else thinks you can just slowly roll across a pile of pine cones, I'll save them the repair bill lol
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I should've kept the one beneath my front tire lol
 
Pinecones? WTF!!!! Were they waxed or something?
 
Ugur Dinch said:
Sorry to see the crash but that was an epic landing !

Is that the IBM parking lot ?
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I wish! lol It's the Purolator building off 401 and Hurontario
 
油井緋色;2134582 said:
@Everyone saying the OP isn't ready for the upgrade

I don't think it is a matter of skill or time invested into his 250. It, honestly, is a lot more based on personality. I have 2 good buddies I ride with (one started on a GSXR600 *GASP*) where we'll rip apart each other's riding styles, reference proven technologies (such as those gained from Total Control or read from Twist of the Wrist) and figure out how/what we did wrong on almost every ramp run. On the flip side, I've noticed a large number of riders have this gigantic ego shield where they won't admit any faults.

If the OP is an analytic individual that enjoys constantly developing his skills to reach the levels that the listed bikes are capable of, then by all means buy one. On the flip side...he'll meet Mr. Asphalt if he treats the throttle the same way he does on the 250 lol
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lol wait, so your telling us that you and your riding buddies critique eachothers riding "skills" while "ramping" based on the information you've gained from limited training and then this is the result....

Mina said:
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I'll teach you how to ride over pinecones if you show me how to ramp.
 
Shaman said:
What is this, 2011? Hot start issues haven't been a complaint in a couple of years now. The winter 2013 code seems to be the "good revision" and the bikes are more or less sorted now. It took them about two years to deal with the @#%^ gas we get over in North America but these problems are sorted. Mine has not exhibited a single issue. Yes the "fuel saver" mapping sucks and makes me gas it hard off stop lights but really I'm only in town long enough to get fuel or meet up with friends. Why would anyone wants a hardcore superbike to ride in a city is beyond me. Completely. Get ZRX 1200 or a V-Max if stoplight sprints are your thing... they're cheap enough...

FYI, the race ECU also gets rid of the fuel saving map under 15% throttle and low RPMs. One of the primary reasons I'm going to start an ordering frenzy here in a few days.

Regarding heat coming off the bike, the frame does get pretty warm if you're doing stop and go traffic on the RSV4. But it's not as bad as the heat that came off my Sprint ST, as bad as the heat that came off my buddy's RC-51, and it's not even remotely as hot as the Panigale. Also, the S1000RR I rode was pretty hot even on a spirited ride in July. I never got to try it in stop n' go but my impression is that it wouldn't be as cool and composed as my Suzukis that way (although neither of my current ones have fans, lol) If you're going to make a lot of power in a tight package, you have to expect some heat... personally I couldn't live with the 1199's heat output, though.
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Hot start issues are sill happening on the Aprilia V4's.
I've experienced it myself. I don't commute with the bike. And don't generally ride in the city. But there are always times when you pass though a urban centre and get stuck in traffic for a bit. Bike heats up, stop for fuel (bike is thirsty), and then good luck re-starting. Real piss off to have to push your bike away from a pump and sit around waiting for 1/2 to 1hr for it to cool so you can get going again.
 
Nobody I know (and I know quite a few) is suffering from that, in a considerable amount of time. Nor have I, with a year's experience on my own bike. My buddy Shawn is on his fourth year with his R and his bike hasn't done it since the reflash in 2012. But what do I know...
 
Shaman said:
Nobody I know (and I know quite a few) is suffering from that, in a considerable amount of time. Nor have I, with a year's experience on my own bike. My buddy Shawn is on his fourth year with his R and his bike hasn't done it since the reflash in 2012. But what do I know...
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I have the Tuono V4R and not once have I experienced this issue. Starts every time.
 
Shaman said:
Nobody I know (and I know quite a few) is suffering from that, in a considerable amount of time. Nor have I, with a year's experience on my own bike. My buddy Shawn is on his fourth year with his R and his bike hasn't done it since the reflash in 2012. But what do I know...
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That's all well and fine. Guess it must be resolved then because it doesn't happen to anybody you know personally.
My bike is less than a year old and well used with over 20,000km on it. Ridden through everthing fom desert to high mountain passes near freezing temperatures. And even through city traffic, the horror. And I have experienced the hot start issue. Whether you choose to believe me or not doesn't matter.

Even with all that it is still my favorite bike. I knew what I was getting into. But most people are not willing to put up with the "italian character".
 
i've heard the bmw is the 'easiest to ride' out of all litre bikes . mcn even says easier than the honda! t/f ?
 
vrus said:
i've heard the bmw is the 'easiest to ride' out of all litre bikes . mcn even says easier than the honda! t/f ?
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Yeah, I'd say no. It's large/ish for a current bike (though for large riders, may be a plus) and the top end power hit catches people out. It's not that it's a bad bike and it's obviously fast especially in a straight line, but there are several bikes "easier" to ride at speed (RC8, CBR, RSV4, GSXR come to mind as some). If they mean for street riding, I go back to my comment that the upright supernaked bikes are a better, and more importantly, more enjoyable fit for someone looking for superbike power on the street.
 
komodo said:
Hot start issues are sill happening on the Aprilia V4's.
I've experienced it myself. I don't commute with the bike. And don't generally ride in the city. But there are always times when you pass though a urban centre and get stuck in traffic for a bit. Bike heats up, stop for fuel (bike is thirsty), and then good luck re-starting. Real piss off to have to push your bike away from a pump and sit around waiting for 1/2 to 1hr for it to cool so you can get going again.
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Apparently changing the battery cables for something a little more robust has great success in preventing the hot start issues. Common upgrade amongst RSV4 owners.
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