Help me choose, MV F4 or HP4 or 1199 Panigale R

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Neil_V said:
Race ecu is only $500 from AF1

As for the Pani, it's really peaky. Really nothing like you'd expect from a twin, you actually have to be pretty high in the revs to get alot out of it. I suspect that's what JPR means.
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Race ecu isn't going to help with the hot start issues.

If the Pani is really peaky that might be to the OP benefit. If the OP stays out of the revs it's smooth sailing.
 
Neil_V said:
Race ecu is only $500 from AF1

As for the Pani, it's really peaky. Really nothing like you'd expect from a twin, you actually have to be pretty high in the revs to get alot out of it. I suspect that's what JPR means.
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Exactly!!! Lots of fun, but difficult to ride. I am not familiar with the NSR 125, but I imagine they would have around 25HP. Compared to a pani R that comes with the termi's and some other engine mods, the pani has around 190-200HP (rough estimate) That's quite the power difference. It really peaky and hits hard!! Even with the electronics it's hard to keep the front wheel down. Given that, I only have experienced the pani on the track. So I am not sure of it's street characteristics.
 
komodo said:
Race ecu isn't going to help with the hot start issues.
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What is this, 2011? Hot start issues haven't been a complaint in a couple of years now. The winter 2013 code seems to be the "good revision" and the bikes are more or less sorted now. It took them about two years to deal with the @#%^ gas we get over in North America but these problems are sorted. Mine has not exhibited a single issue. Yes the "fuel saver" mapping sucks and makes me gas it hard off stop lights but really I'm only in town long enough to get fuel or meet up with friends. Why would anyone wants a hardcore superbike to ride in a city is beyond me. Completely. Get ZRX 1200 or a V-Max if stoplight sprints are your thing... they're cheap enough...

FYI, the race ECU also gets rid of the fuel saving map under 15% throttle and low RPMs. One of the primary reasons I'm going to start an ordering frenzy here in a few days.

Regarding heat coming off the bike, the frame does get pretty warm if you're doing stop and go traffic on the RSV4. But it's not as bad as the heat that came off my Sprint ST, as bad as the heat that came off my buddy's RC-51, and it's not even remotely as hot as the Panigale. Also, the S1000RR I rode was pretty hot even on a spirited ride in July. I never got to try it in stop n' go but my impression is that it wouldn't be as cool and composed as my Suzukis that way (although neither of my current ones have fans, lol) If you're going to make a lot of power in a tight package, you have to expect some heat... personally I couldn't live with the 1199's heat output, though.
 
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MPS said:
guys stop picking on the riding skill
my first bike was a ducati 848 just 2 years ago
and guess what im still here and now i got an HP4
bike i started on was 2005 ZX10
some ppl just have it in them some dont
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Why did you sell you duc anyway? Did the red wheels not look good?
 
油井緋色;2134582 said:
@Everyone saying the OP isn't ready for the upgrade

I don't think it is a matter of skill or time invested into his 250. It, honestly, is a lot more based on personality. I have 2 good buddies I ride with (one started on a GSXR600 *GASP*) where we'll rip apart each other's riding styles, reference proven technologies (such as those gained from Total Control or read from Twist of the Wrist) and figure out how/what we did wrong on almost every ramp run. On the flip side, I've noticed a large number of riders have this gigantic ego shield where they won't admit any faults.

If the OP is an analytic individual that enjoys constantly developing his skills to reach the levels that the listed bikes are capable of, then by all means buy one. On the flip side...he'll meet Mr. Asphalt if he treats the throttle the same way he does on the 250 lol
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I can't take advice from someone that slipped on a pine cone. sorry.
 
Shaman said:
Get ZRX 1200 or a V-Max if stoplight sprints are your thing... they're cheap enough...
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Wooooooaaaaaahhhhhhh let's not get crazy and put a ZRX in the same sentence as a V-Max
 
Shaman said:
In this pic, OP is in the white leathers.

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Yes that's an EX250 in green.
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Benny! said:
Why did you sell you duc anyway? Did the red wheels not look good?
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Benny! said:
I can't take advice from someone that slipped on a pine cone. sorry.
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Benny! said:
I can't take advice from someone that slipped on a pine cone. sorry.
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It's alright. I don't mind being reminded of my mistakes =)
 
MPS said:
guys stop picking on the riding skill
my first bike was a ducati 848 just 2 years ago
and guess what im still here and now i got an HP4
bike i started on was 2005 ZX10
some ppl just have it in them some dont
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which you crashed 2 times.....:dontknow: guess some people just have it in them eh!
 
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JPR said:
Exactly!!! Lots of fun, but difficult to ride. I am not familiar with the NSR 125, but I imagine they would have around 25HP. Compared to a pani R that comes with the termi's and some other engine mods, the pani has around 190-200HP (rough estimate) That's quite the power difference. It really peaky and hits hard!! Even with the electronics it's hard to keep the front wheel down. Given that, I only have experienced the pani on the track. So I am not sure of it's street characteristics.
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Its NSR 150 (with 115kg curb weight) ;) and i completely understand the peaky part.
 
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