Has this season's number of accidents and deaths been normal?

[turbodish]

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how is that adding any value to anyone's safety?

There is wisdom to be gained in learning from your mistakes, but it's a whole lot smarter and less painful to avoid mistakes by learning from others' mistakes.

The great myth among too many motorcycle riders is that left-turning cars are the main cause of rider fatalities. Evil cagers are out to get riders. Evil cagers are a rider's worst enemy.

Truth is, riders are their own worst enemy. Rider error, often involving excess speed, accounts for about 3 out of 4 rider fatalities. Internalize that and the specific kind of riding errors that are killing riders, and you might have a chance at surviving to become a better rider.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

TurboDish, have kept a list of the locations of these fatalities? It would be interesting to see them mapped.

http://www.accidentin.com/ca/motorcycle_accidents_in_ontario.htm

 

[kiwi]

Thanks.
I for one like reading and understanding stats. Now when I discuss motorcycle deaths/accidents I have some sort of stats to back up some of my discussions .

 

[ZX600]

There is wisdom to be gained in learning from your mistakes, but it's a whole lot smarter and less painful to avoid mistakes by learning from others' mistakes.

The great myth among too many motorcycle riders is that left-turning cars are the main cause of rider fatalities. Evil cagers are out to get riders. Evil cagers are a rider's worst enemy.

Truth is, riders are their own worst enemy. Rider error, often involving excess speed, accounts for about 3 out of 4 rider fatalities. Internalize that and the specific kind of riding errors that are killing riders, and you might have a chance at surviving to become a better rider.

I agree with you in regards to riders been their worse enemies not left turns, still doesn't make the point of how trying to figure out if this year is worse than the last will make you a safer rider.

but you guys continue on with your little Cumbaya if it pleases you

 

[ZX600]

Thanks.
I for one like reading and understanding stats. Now when I discuss motorcycle deaths/accidents I have some sort of stats to back up some of my discussions .

you are right, it makes you sound smart and experienced at timmies

 

[boooya]

you are right, it makes you sound smart and experienced at timmies

snap!!!!

 

[Prince]

There's a car accident every ten seconds in the US. Cars have air bags, so fatalities in cars have decreased exponentially. Motorcycles don't have air bags, therefore accidents are likely to result in serious injury or death. Media focuses on death as it makes good news.

Contributing factors:

More new riders, shorter season. Canada's seasons are becoming shorter and more extreme, so it's either too cold to ride, or too hot which results in not enough seat time for new riders to hone skills. Coupled with more aggressive/careless cage drivers (due to cars being safer than ever in history) on cells and texting and this is the new world of riding. It's the wild west. Learn to ride defensively and you too will live.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

As I've said, regarding other issues, watch the 5 year trends. Is it an upward trend, or a spike like the recent rise in pedestrian deaths, in Toronto? You never really know while it's happening.

Previous thread on the subject: http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?92720-Motorcycle-Accidents-Statistics

 

[Myztyk]

Is it bad this year vs last year....because its turning out to be a better riding season? Better weather? etc??

We actually had a better season last year. Started earlier, less rain early in the season.

Beginning of this seasons was *****.

 

[TorontoBoy]

There is wisdom to be gained in learning from your mistakes, but it's a whole lot smarter and less painful to avoid mistakes by learning from others' mistakes.

The great myth among too many motorcycle riders is that left-turning cars are the main cause of rider fatalities. Evil cagers are out to get riders. Evil cagers are a rider's worst enemy.

Truth is, riders are their own worst enemy. Rider error, often involving excess speed, accounts for about 3 out of 4 rider fatalities. Internalize that and the specific kind of riding errors that are killing riders, and you might have a chance at surviving to become a better rider.

We have personal control of the rider error mistakes, for sure.

The question is, do we have a problem with multi-vehicle crashes? If this is increasing, maybe we need to change our riding style to become safer. Is there something on our bikes or our training that contributes to an increased risk? The only way to know if we have a problem is to study crash stats. How else do you think we can determine if motorcyclists in Ontario have a problem with multi-vehicle crashes? If the stats say we have no problem, then life continues as is.

I do not believe we have any increase in bike crashes. As usual we have increases in new riders crashing, because we have more new riders on the road.

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