Frame swapping
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TK4
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Sigh - what bike ?
GateKeeper
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Ok so crashed frame is cracked, you want to do a swap?, I still don't get what your question is ?
Riceburner
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New frame is registered? Take off all parts from old...put on new.
Exactly this. Swap parts, register new bike, profit.
It's surprisingly easy to do especially since all you have to do is transfer everything over to the new frame. Might need the odd tool for a specific bolt or part but after tearing my last bike down to the bare frame and rebuilding, it can be done with simple hand tools. If you have a service manual then that's a bonus for getting torque specs, otherwise you will have some googleing to do. Make sure to mark all critical bolts with a grease pen or marker after torqued to watch for anything backing off.
TK4
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If the frame is brand new, it won't have a VIN stamped on it. Find someone with a set of number/letter punches and transfer from your old frame.
You also mentioned in your PM that the front end was bent, so this is a write off that you're trying to save ?
It may not be worth your time and effort.
You also mentioned in your PM that the front end was bent, so this is a write off that you're trying to save ?
It may not be worth your time and effort.
VIN's are for vehicles not frames. New frames I have seen didn't have a VIN. If you use a new to you frame that came out of an existing bike it will have a VIN.
My guess is the OP would like to keep his old VIN and pretend this never happened. I've never tried swapping VIN plates, I don't know how easy it is to get them off.
Looks like you are correct after all, you have to apply with MTO and they will issue you a VIN #, only info I could find was in regards to home made frame but could see it working the same.
Is an MTO issued VIN going to cause an insurance nightmare? How much info do the insurance companies have in their databases? If your VIN doesn't decode properly to match your type of bike I could see insurance companies not wanting to touch it.
No idea, that would be a question for the MTO or an insurance company, only found limited info and was more geared towards custom built frames. If you had documentation from the company supplying the frame (Yamaha, Suzuki, etc) I do not see them having issues...but then again that's logic so may not apply.
blackcamaro
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Find a used frame with an ownership is going to be the best way. If you can do it depends on your skill set.
You DO NOT WANT anything but a manufacturer-supplied VIN (along with the clear-title paperwork associated with that VIN) - whether that's the VIN that came on the original frame on that original frame, or a VIN that was transferred to a blank frame (which could be a nightmare), or a VIN that came on the frame from some other bike together with all the ownership paperwork for that other bike. If it's the latter situation then essentially you are scrapping your bike with your VIN and buying the other bike as a used bike (with clear registration paperwork), it's not the MoT's concern that you are swapping parts between the two to make something functional.
Forget the MoT issued VIN route, insurance will be a nightmare.
Crashed bike with cracked frame ... there is a high probability that you are better off parting out what's left of that bike and simply buying another fully functional bike. If it's something rare or irreplaceable or unobtainium then maybe that's another matter.
Forget the MoT issued VIN route, insurance will be a nightmare.
Crashed bike with cracked frame ... there is a high probability that you are better off parting out what's left of that bike and simply buying another fully functional bike. If it's something rare or irreplaceable or unobtainium then maybe that's another matter.
