LOL at the Chinese organisation behind that video!
This ought to be good ...
Too cheap to be good = too good to be true ...
This ought to be good ...
Too cheap to be good = too good to be true ...
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DOT helmet audit. 43% fail to meet performance standard.
- Thread starter GreyGhost
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ACsurge
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GTFO! Really!?!
Bought it from Snow City Cycle Marine, MOTORCYCLE DEALERS TORONTO, MOTORCYCLE DEALERS IN TORONTO
ACsurge
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I should check. I only looked it up online as my helmet is at the office/warehouse
ScorpionT16
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Which Shoei did you get?
I stumped how they are selling a RF-1200 for $69.99! (cheapest i saw, and that is Snell and DOT Certified, at least the real one I have is) Must be a mistake or a fake, which would be surprising from a dealer.
Light Silver RF-1200 Premium/Sport Touring Full Face Helmet
- Multi-Ply Matrix Aim+Shell Few characteristics of a motorcycle helmet are as critical as its first- layer defense, which is precisely why the new RF-1200 features the SHOEI-exclusive Multi-Ply Matrix AIM+ Shell construction. Combining fiberglass with organic fibers, the RF-1200's proprietary...
snowcity.stores.dealerspike.com
TK4
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Which Shoei did you get?
I stumped how they are selling a RF-1200 for $69.99! (cheapest i saw, and that is Snell and DOT Certified, at least the real one I have is) Must be a mistake or a fake, which would be surprising from a dealer.
Light Silver RF-1200 Premium/Sport Touring Full Face Helmet
- Multi-Ply Matrix Aim+Shell Few characteristics of a motorcycle helmet are as critical as its first- layer defense, which is precisely why the new RF-1200 features the SHOEI-exclusive Multi-Ply Matrix AIM+ Shell construction. Combining fiberglass with organic fibers, the RF-1200's proprietary...snowcity.stores.dealerspike.com
Maybe its part of the Motovan fire sale ?
Mad Mike
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I've purchased SHOEIs for less than $200 new, typically when they release a new SNELL date code. CycleWorld used to buy up 5 year old NOS and sell them cheap. About 5 years back I bought 2 RF1000sfor $199each and an RF1100 for $299. I don't do track days so the SNELL expiry didn't mean a lot to me.
I was able to register the warrantys on all the helmets.
ScorpionT16
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I think @ACsurge should mention what Shoei it is in question, as it was "$900 new"... RF1100's on discount are older models and still great lids, however on the RF-1200 they changed a lot more than a SNELL date code, I got a RF-1200 and bought a heavily discounted Quest when the newer RF-SR was announced, so deals can be had.
That $69.99 RF-1200, would be an insane deal if true and real
ACsurge
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I got the GT-Air
Manufactured Aug 2016. So older bucket. Only has a DOT sticker on it. Probably won't get though SNELL as it has a sun shade. However may have gone through SHARP. But nothing officially in the box or helmet.
Mine differs in colour only
Shoei GT Air - SHARP
sharp.dft.gov.uk
ScorpionT16
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I got the GT-Air
Manufactured Aug 2016. So older bucket. Only has a DOT sticker on it. Probably won't get though SNELL as it has a sun shade. However may have gone through SHARP. But nothing officially in the box or helmet.
Mine differs in colour only
Shoei GT Air - SHARP
Its a solid lid, check the reviews, lots of people crashed in it and real world results with alot of positive remarks - I wouldn't worry about the DOT only in this Shose's instance, they make safe lids like many other top brands. Shoei GT-Air Helmet | 31% ($200.00) Off! - RevZilla
"I hit a deer going 65-70mph wearing my GT Air and went tumbling. Destroyed the helmet but I had zero head trauma, not even a headache. "
"2 months after she bought it from me I got in a bad accident. The Dr.s in the E.R. kept telling me if I wouldn't of worn a helmet I wouldn't be here today. "
Anything with a built in sunshade fails Snell automatically. The helmet can still be safe but it is not approved for Track use. The helmet can ALSO be ECE even without an ECE sticker. If the helmet is shipped to Europe it'll get that sticker. But those shipped to North America won't get that sticker.
All the other colour helmets are $639.99....I am sure it is just a data entry issue. Somebody missed a 3.Which Shoei did you get?
I stumped how they are selling a RF-1200 for $69.99! (cheapest i saw, and that is Snell and DOT Certified, at least the real one I have is) Must be a mistake or a fake, which would be surprising from a dealer.
Light Silver RF-1200 Premium/Sport Touring Full Face Helmet
- Multi-Ply Matrix Aim+Shell Few characteristics of a motorcycle helmet are as critical as its first- layer defense, which is precisely why the new RF-1200 features the SHOEI-exclusive Multi-Ply Matrix AIM+ Shell construction. Combining fiberglass with organic fibers, the RF-1200's proprietary...snowcity.stores.dealerspike.com
Gt Air is ECE as well.I got the GT-Air
Manufactured Aug 2016. So older bucket. Only has a DOT sticker on it. Probably won't get though SNELL as it has a sun shade. However may have gone through SHARP. But nothing officially in the box or helmet.
Mine differs in colour only
Shoei GT Air - SHARP
ACsurge
Well-known member
So Shoei's website says to change helmets every 7 years. What is the censors on this?
I should register it also. Has a couple years warranty left
That’s when Kahuna was doing some money laundering. You won’t find shoei deals like that very often.
For primary brain buckets, I normally go for at least five years of active use, ~10 from manufacture date. After that, they get demoted to occasional passenger duty, then motorsport duty (SxS so the chance of a headshot is low), then display or garbage.
I have an Arai with an 08 date code. sat in all the original packaging in a climate controlled closet for the first decade of its life. As long as the EPS foam is still springy and has no visible issues (cracking, deterioration, etc.) IMO it’s probably still good to go. I’d rather wear my 12 year old Arai than my 2yr old HJC though i'll probably retire it before 5 riding seasons.
What really kills helmet is all the sweat, hair gel, UV light, moisture, etc. that breaks down the shell + EPS over time.
What really kills helmet is all the sweat, hair gel, UV light, moisture, etc. that breaks down the shell + EPS over time.
The dumbest comment of the day.
I have some experience in the sports industry that uses a lot of helmet. Try not to use helmets over 5 years. Even without any use, EPS form degrades a lot.
Check 3:03.
yes I forgot about all the "evaporation" that the helmet suffered while in a plastic bag, in a helmet bag, in a sealed box, kept at 71 degrees in the dark for its entire life. I've inspected the EPS foam and it has all the characteristics of a brand new helmet, springy, no flaking, no dryness, etc. I have motocross + mtb helmets i've tossed after 3 years from them constantly being wet/dirty and having the EPS go hard/brittle.
But please continue to tell me how a budget lid, with the same shell size as the one 3 sizes up, is somehow safer than one of the best designed helmets you can buy with a few extra years on it. I'm sure HJC is using the exact same quality of EPS and materials as Arai as well.
As great as FortNine is, please show me the scientific study he highlights his numbers from. Manufacturers recommend anywhere from 3-7 years to cover their *****. I'd rather use my judgement and experience to decide when the helmet isn't good instead of the marketing guy + lawyers making some trivial number up.
check-out an actual peer reviewed study instead of some guy making fun youtube's:
EPS Foam Helmet Liner Performance With Age
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