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bitzz

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All good if you put it on the road within 30 days... otherwise cert is gone.

Peggers bff has no license. Might take a bit to get that sorted.

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Nope. The cert has been accepted and filed. As long as the MOT gets the cert before it expires you're good.
Done.
Fit/unplated is a thing. I have at least a dozen bikes with that classification. Makes them easier to export.

You don't need any sort of license to register, insure or plate a vehicle in Ontario. (Insurance would be kinda tricky but 100% doable. I've seen it done).

The OP has record of dubious posts here.
The dealership would need some sort of insurance policy in the name of the bike owner to get the thing plated.
Typical Peggy BS.
 

bigslimjim

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I sell bikes. The customer has every right to pick up his bike as long as he has it put on the back of a pickup or trailers it home or has it towed home. All you need to buy a bike is the full payment. If it had been financed then they would require insurance and again its rare that finance companies ask for insurance. Heres what happend. They probably plated the bike for him instead of registering it "Fit Unplated" by writing a bogus insurance policy.

I have over 40 sales this year alone of people with no license buying the bikes. they go rent a uhaul and take it home. what they do after is totaly up to them. sounds like bs dealership to me. You are able to purchase bikes just like purchasing a stove or a microwave. you pay the amount in full and you trailer it home.

There is absolutely no reason the dealer should not let him take the bike home on a trailer. It is his property and it is off the hands of the dealer. Call police and report the bike stolen in that case because you are the rightful owner of the property.
 

GateKeeper

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I sell bikes. The customer has every right to pick up his bike as long as he has it put on the back of a pickup or trailers it home or has it towed home. All you need to buy a bike is the full payment. If it had been financed then they would require insurance and again its rare that finance companies ask for insurance. Heres what happend. They probably plated the bike for him instead of registering it "Fit Unplated" by writing a bogus insurance policy.

I have over 40 sales this year alone of people with no license buying the bikes. they go rent a uhaul and take it home. what they do after is totaly up to them. sounds like bs dealership to me. You are able to purchase bikes just like purchasing a stove or a microwave. you pay the amount in full and you trailer it home.

There is absolutely no reason the dealer should not let him take the bike home on a trailer. It is his property and it is off the hands of the dealer. Call police and report the bike stolen in that case because you are the rightful owner of the property.
More or less what I said.....

Thanks for confirming.....

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HarleyHare

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This post is a joke, and so is the OP. With stories like this that make no sense whatsoever, there is always a piece of the story missing. Do people not communicate? Did the dealer not tell the buyer why he can't have the bike? What a waste of brain cells for those trying to figure out what happened.
 

Wingboy

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Reminds me of a guy i knew back in the 80's named Karel Soucek.He would ride from Hamilton to Arthur on his moped with his parachute gear on to learn to skydive.He always had weird scarey tales of things he said he wanted to do.Most people made fun of him,but he was quite entertaining.He died in the Houston Astrodome i think.Practicing his attempt of a barrel over Niagara Falls.The rigging broke and his barrel missed the pool and hit the floor.
Peggy is entertaining,but follows the forum rules and doesn't get banned for being silly.There have been others that get infractions for insulting him tho............"What a waste of brain cells".
 

Dougy

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Pegasus has always been one of my favourites on this board.Always good for a laugh.
I think the majority on this board take things way too seriously , just my opinion.
Rock on WicHa funky self Mr.Pegassus
 

PrivatePilot

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Methinks the part that Peggy's "friend" is forgetting to tell him is that he actually financed the bike, and he didn't exactly pay it off entirely in cash.

In that case, as soon as there is financing involved, part of the terms is that the buyer produces an insurance slip showing FULL coverage before the vehicle leaves the dealership.

But yeah, this doesn't pass the smell test. A simple call to the dealership should provide the exact reasoning without the need to make a post on a forum and whine about it....which accomplishes a grand total of nothing whatsoever to resolve the issue.
 

nobbie48

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Once the dealer has their money why would they be responsible for looking after the insurance company's assets if the bike was financed?

Possibly the funds don't get released to the dealer until insurance is in place so while the deal is in place the money hasn't actually changed hands due to paper delays.

I don't see why a new bike couldn't be transferred as fit unplated. Obviously there would be a contract requirement between the insurer and the finance company usually requiring the owner to keep insurance in place.

Yeah there's more to the story.
 

JP0160

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Interesting. When I bought my CBR new from Markham outdoor power I got it delivered to my home for free in January and didn't have insurance until April. I can't recall when I received the ownership or plate, but I think I paid the dealer a licensing fee. I can't remember how I got my plate actually, maybe I waited until I had insurance then picked up my plate from the dealer? Not sure.
 

800over

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Keep in mind if the speculation is correct that the bike was licensed with a bogus insurance policy then they can easily walk back in and cancel the plates/ reverse the ownership. Things at the ministry can be reversed if done in error or if something changes. My dealership does it all the time.
 

Pegassus

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Something is funky...
You dont need anything to buy a bike... other than money.
If the guy paid in full and the dealer wont deliver... He should demand his money back and go elsewhere or... Put in a call to the Ministry of Consumer& Corporate Affairs.
Bottom line is... Dealer took payment.
Everything else is irrelevant.
Exactly, if I buy something with money I expect it to take it home, nobody's business what I do with it. Its not a firearm. I can buy lumber and not need a carpenter's title, I can buy electrical products at Home Depot and don't need an electrician licence.

Talked today with my friend, the dealership hasn't even offered to plate it for him, and now he changed his mind, he wants to give them more money $$$ and upgrade to a bigger 2019 bike. I think he is going to get dinged with a penalty for this?

He can take delivery but it will be with an "unfit" ownership and no license plate, and it will not be leaving under its own power. That's what's done for race/track/dirt bikes.

Original poster has a history of not telling the whole story. It's entirely possible that the piece of the story that's being omitted is that the person in question is asking for something that can't (legally) be done.
There's nothing more to the story, he bought it in full and they won't release it until he goes with his M2 licence and insurance, he already has his M1.


So what dealer is this?
He lives in Oakville so it must be an Oakville dealership. The bike in question is a Cam Am 3-wheel bike.
 
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kruzuki

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This post is a joke, and so is the OP. With stories like this that make no sense whatsoever, there is always a piece of the story missing. Do people not communicate? Did the dealer not tell the buyer why he can't have the bike? What a waste of brain cells for those trying to figure out what happened.
My thoughts exactly.
 

Brian P

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Can-Ams are generally not used for any purpose other than driving on the road. It is entirely possible that the dealer has never done any process other than the standard one (insurance, financing, and license plate all fully arranged and sorted out in advance) and thus has no experience with anything outside of that. It is also possible that they have an internal policy dictating that that's how it's gonna be.

As for the upgrade to a newer fancier model ... he's going to pay the price difference.

Bear in mind that customers who are a pain in the tail, pay extra. Be nice. Go with the flow. Follow the standard procedure (driver's license and insurance up front).
 

Hack

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OP's friend needs to grow a set, rent a trailer and go pick up his lawfully purchased property.
This BS about not releasing the bike until the dealership is satisfied he's licensed to their satisfaction is nonsense.
There is no regulation that supports their position.
Personally... if a dealer tried to pulled that crap on me I'd be getting my $ back and going elsewhere immediately.

Cool story bro, but I recall buying
My first bike and riding away with it on my learner's permit...
 
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crankcall

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there is still a few holes in this story.

paid in full for new ride, dealer wont release said ride, decide to upgrade to a better model and offer same dealer more money?? Oy Vey
 

matt365

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A while ago Can-Am was giving a free course with the purchase of a spider. Maybe they still are?

You can ride one with am M. It is a different class of license for a 3 wheeler. Not so sure about an m1...

I'm sure this story will keep getting weirder....

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Trials

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lol interesting development, the bike just became a trike.
"He lives in Oakville so it must be an Oakville dealership." What? Since when!
Under the circumstances I'd be insisting on a full refund and he should buy anywhere he can find the trike he likes and a dealer is willing to take his money.
 
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